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Re: Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...

True I was not there but i will bet a months pay that inexperience and ego are huge factors in this story. The reason I say that is that I have seen it so many times. Another reason is the lack of a flashlight or at least enough batteries to last the duration of the trip. If you see me on a boat i have a flashlight in my left pocket and a knife in the right one. an extra in my pack and no less than 4 changes of fresh batteries. You will also find a hand held gps and hand held compass in my pack. I have seen bay sailors that believe they are master offshore sailors because they have sailed 5-10 afternoons a year for 30 years. I am far from the best sailor I am far from the worst. That being said I have been through the experiences the broken bones and painful learning curves that come form some of my own stupid decisions and many more by others because i was to inexperienced to know any better. I could be wrong about this captain but i highly doubt it.
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Re: Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...

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...they had no way of knowing what the storm was doing without electronics. It's pretty scary at night with 20' seas and no idea whether things are going to get worse BUT does that warrant bailing out...
If they were in contact with the USCG, they had access to all the weather info they'd need. The CG is very, very good about providing anything you need in an emergency to help you make a very informed decision whether to be taken off.
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If they were in contact with the USCG, they had access to all the weather info they'd need. The CG is very, very good about providing anything you need in an emergency to help you make a very informed decision whether to be taken off.
Was trying to give them some benefit of doubt but you're absolutely right, the CG must certainly have given them a weather synopsis. I'm still wondering what the criteria are triggering the CG to start a rescue mission. Is it immediate and actual threat to life such as a sinking vessel or severe bleeding, heart attack, etc. or is it "I'm scared, beam me up Scotty?" Maybe they needed the practice in this case?
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Just what are the criteria the USCG uses to decide if a rescue attempt is warranted? Is it by request?
Yes. The USCG won't "decide" if a rescue is warranted. That's your job as a skipper. If you call, they come. God bless 'em for that.
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Re: Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...

It could be that with the current budget squeeze, it might not take too many questionable, expensive missions to change that policy.
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Re: Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...

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It could be that with the current budget squeeze, it might not take too many questionable, expensive missions to change that policy.
No. They start the process as soon as someone is reported missing or a mayday is received.

They have started, within the last ten years I'd say, really upping the penalties for false maydays. Six-figure fines and jail time isn't unusual.
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No. They start the process as soon as someone is reported missing or a mayday is received.

They have started, within the last ten years I'd say, really upping the penalties for false maydays. Six-figure fines and jail time isn't unusual.
Donna.. have they successfully prosecuted/collected/convicted on many such incidents? Any idea of how many?

There was an incident in California recently but I don't believe they ever identified the culprit?
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