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jameswilson29 06-08-2013 09:55 AM

Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...
 
Here we go again - the U.S.C.G. rescues a "delivery captain" and 3 "sailors" off a 35' sailboat off Charleston: Coast Guard rescues four men on sailboat pummeled by Andrea off Charleston – The Post and Courier

The dire emergency: no electrical power and no engines (and no shame)!:eek::confused::laugher

How could anyone possibly survive losing all electrical power and the engine offshore! Heavens, no, it couldn't possibly happen.:p Plus a tropical storm with gusts to 50 knots and 20 foot swells! Apparently, no one thought to bring a flashlight on a sailboat on an ocean passage...

Wow, this is the second time this year we have seen a "delivery captain" need to be rescued by the U.S.C.G!

These guys are giving delivery captains a bad name...:hothead

Now, calling - all picnic sailors - jump in this thread and support the "delivery captain's" decision to call the U.S.C.G.:o

PBzeer 06-08-2013 10:26 AM

Re: Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...
 
Seems like a lot of bad decisions being made, and they apparently started before they ever cast off the docklines. The first of which was taking on a job they evidently couldn't handle.

marcusc130 06-08-2013 10:58 AM

Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...
 
They contacted the coast guard with a sat phone charged by a wind generator, so doesn't seem like they were really without power?

smurphny 06-08-2013 11:12 AM

Re: Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...
 
It's really puzzling how people get themselves into this kind of trouble. Maybe "delivery captains" need a checklist with no-brainer things like flashlights included. There are sure to be deficiencies in boats to be delivered but one would think anyone taking the responsibility to move a boat would have some minimum requirements. One obvious minimum would be some way to check weather predictions to be able to make the complicated decision to say, "Gee, there's a tropical storm coming...Maybe we shouldn't be out here"...duh:D They threw the freaking anchor in??? It doesn't sound like it was a sea anchor. Let's see--a couple hundred pounds of chain and anchor, dead weight being jerked up and down..lucky they didn't rip the bow off and rig along with it.

DRFerron 06-08-2013 11:38 AM

Re: Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smurphny (Post 1041319)
...They threw the freaking anchor in??? It doesn't sound like it was a sea anchor. Let's see--a couple hundred pounds of chain and anchor, dead weight being jerked up and down..lucky they didn't rip the bow off and rig along with it.

We have no way of knowing if the writer of the article is a boater. They could have said sea anchor and it got lost in translation.

The article also said that the sails were shredded. That along with no engine and no navigation lights would make them a hazard to others as well as themselves since they'd have no way to make way other than to drift where the stream takes them.

Not arguing for or against their judgment, I just don't think this short article tells the entire story and thus I think we shouldn't jump too quickly.

Stories like this are good for discussion rather than disparaging.

DRFerron 06-08-2013 11:48 AM

Re: Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...
 
On the other hand, if your boat isn't sinking, you're hardly "shark bait."

MarkofSeaLife 06-08-2013 11:50 AM

Re: Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...
 
Well we dont know the full story.

Be that as it may... I do not listen to people on internet forums who pontificate just because they are 'delivery captains' (nor do I listen to pontificators who say they are sailing instructors!).

Fatal error here is one made by MANY delivery skippers.. thinking they must do the passage now because thats what a delivery skipper is paid for, rain hail or shine. So they went out in front of a developing TS/H whatever.

Never underestimate natures wrath on idiot decisions.

jephotog 06-08-2013 12:12 PM

Re: Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...
 
Doesn't the saying go "You should not leave a floating vessel unless it is to step up into the helicopter"?

smurphny 06-08-2013 12:29 PM

Re: Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRFerron (Post 1041329)
We have no way of knowing if the writer of the article is a boater. They could have said sea anchor and it got lost in translation.

The article also said that the sails were shredded. That along with no engine and no navigation lights would make them a hazard to others as well as themselves since they'd have no way to make way other than to drift where the stream takes them.

Not arguing for or against their judgment, I just don't think this short article tells the entire story and thus I think we shouldn't jump too quickly.

Stories like this are good for discussion rather than disparaging.

It appears from the photo, that the boat had/has an inner forestay with an intact furled jib on it.
Surely, pressure from schedules and promises have got to be right up there in causes of things like this as evidenced in the Bounty tragedy as well.

Staredge 06-08-2013 01:22 PM

Re: Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...
 
If the boat is still afloat, did you really need to be rescued???


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