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Talk to me about whisker poles!

You can do without a whisker pole. I use a setup I read about in Sail which uses the boom as a whisker pole. All you need is a snatch block clipped to the end of your boom. Run the job sheet through the block, down to the deck jib block and then to a winch. The boom should be out as far as possible(watch for chafe) and the main furled. Rig a preventer, then pull out your Jenny. This works great, and is simple,taking about 5 minutes to set up. True, you only have one sail, but I still make decent speed.
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Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

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You can do without a whisker pole. I use a setup I read about in Sail which uses the boom as a whisker pole. All you need is a snatch block clipped to the end of your boom. Run the job sheet through the block, down to the deck jib block and then to a winch. The boom should be out as far as possible(watch for chafe) and the main furled. Rig a preventer, then pull out your Jenny. This works great, and is simple,taking about 5 minutes to set up. True, you only have one sail, but I still make decent speed.
Maybe simple for those with a furling main.

Even then, 5 minutes to set up doesn't sound so simple.

From this thread, I am getting a real appreciation for how different our rigs may be, and therefore there's no one single best way to do a whisker pole because of these differences.
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Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

fos:
Yeah but,,,,,,,
Now you have both sails on the same side of the boat.
And that's why we use a whisker pole.
Ta dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

If I don't want to use a pole( by myself or just plain lazy). May put reef in main and go to far reach even with genny and light/ moderate air. Not pretty but easy as have preventers for main on both sides always rigged. Easy to gybe back and forth.If long run its clearly worth the effort to use the pole and go wing and wing God bless carbon fiber.
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Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

It literally takes me 2 minutes to get my new pole up. Another minute if I use the topping lift. And that's single handed.
I use the forspar stanchion mounts to keep it near the mast.
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Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

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It literally takes me 2 minutes to get my new pole up...
LOL. Classic quote coming from a guy named weinie.

Could you explain the single handed part?
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LOL. Classic quote coming from a guy named weinie.

Could you explain the single handed part?
Well, I just use the same hand to unzip and then ....


oh, you meant the boat!

Easy. Autopilot keeps the boat on a deep reach with the main blanketing the genoa. Sheets are free. I connect the pole to the sheet (and topping lift if needed). I jibe the sail over if going wing/wing. Extend the pole, pushing the sail out and then hook it to the ring on the mast. If the wind is up, I'll extend the after it's attached to the mast.

Go back to the cockpit, head DDW, trim the sheet and I'm good to go.

ETA: The only pain in the ass is the pole needs to be extended just a couple of inches first before you can work the latches for some reason.

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Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

Here’s what I can tell you about whisker poles:

In Warsaw, 1967, an underground, subversive group sprang up in opposition to the Communist regime of Władysław Gomułka.

The group met secretly at a location beneath a storefront on Ulica Kubusia Puchatka.

They named the clandestine meeting room the ‘Kit Kat Klub’ – a reference to the setting of the play (and subsequent film) Cabaret.

The philosophy of the group was based on the writings of Robert ‘Bob’ Kane auteur of the popular television series ‘Batman’.

Male members of the group donned costumes based on that worn by Julie Newmar in her character as Catwoman. They would then entertain themselves by chasing bits of string and balls of wool.

The members referred to themselves as ‘Polacy wąsy’ or: ‘Whisker Poles’.

Now you know the rest of the story!
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Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

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Dave makes a good point. The topping lift can make it easier to handle the pole. But on boats under 40' LOA I'm not convinced it's a problem. But then I am a huge strong brute of a man not to be cowed by a mere whisker pole.
"Cowed"?
" mere "?

English is a challenge for me.


And to clarify... I don't have WHISKER POLE. I'm using my spin pole and it's not light.
I do have an extendable whisker pole that a friend gave me and have also found the forespar whisker pole that came w/ the boat although it seems a bit short. May have to try it out tomorrow night in the Wed night race!

Still, I'm thinking the TL makes it easier to handle a long awkward object. Maybe 30' and under it's overkill though.
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No, you only have the jib- the main is flaked on the boom.
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