Talk to me about whisker poles! - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest > General Discussion (sailing related)
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree9Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 06-25-2013
weinie's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 455
Thanks: 4
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 7
weinie is on a distinguished road
Talk to me about whisker poles!

I have a Catalina 27 and I'd like to use a whisker pole with my 150% furling genoa. (Foot is 18').

I was looking at the forspar twist lock 7-15 ft pole.
Assuming I store it on the stanchions with the forspar stanchion brackets, can I simply use a pad eye on the mast or should I go with a t-track and car?
Do I need any other hardware?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 06-25-2013
CaptTony's Avatar
Lookin' for an excuse ...
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Tampa Bay, FL
Posts: 118
Thanks: 6
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 4
CaptTony is on a distinguished road
Many years ago I had a Hunter 27. It had a 150 Genoa sail like you're Catalina. The boat was outfitted with a twist lock whisker pole, and I used a pad eye on the mast. It worked fine. One year returning from the Bahamas I was doing a wing on wing for 10 hours with that setup.

Having said that it would probably be better set up with a track on the mast; although if I ever did it again with a similar size boat I probably would just use the padeye again.
__________________
Capt Tony
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 06-25-2013
weinie's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 455
Thanks: 4
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 7
weinie is on a distinguished road
Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

I am also assuming one can use the mainsail's topping lift for the pole, correct?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 06-25-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 236
Thanks: 1
Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts
Rep Power: 7
tschmidty is on a distinguished road
Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

My .02 (check current exchange rates...) is that a pad eye is fine for a whisker pole if you use it with a genoa of a fixed size. And frankly you can use it for other sails just know that it won't be optimal (but close enough).

I also feel like a topping life is overkill for your boat. Unless your whisker pole is getting particularly heavy or long you'll be fine without it. What will happen is you will close down the leech a bit but frankly downwind sailing is not real dependent on perfect sail shape.

FWIW, here it is a picture of my 23' boat rolling along with a homemade whisker pole made out of a sturdier than normal twist extension, a snap clip and a chopped up paint roller set to a point. You could argue that the pad eye coule be another foot up the mast but I can't see it affecting sail shape much if at all.

CatMan22 and blutoyz like this.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 06-27-2013
blutoyz's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 640
Thanks: 10
Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts
Rep Power: 3
blutoyz is on a distinguished road
Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

Quote:
Originally Posted by tschmidty View Post
My .02 (check current exchange rates...) is that a pad eye is fine for a whisker pole if you use it with a genoa of a fixed size. And frankly you can use it for other sails just know that it won't be optimal (but close enough).

I also feel like a topping life is overkill for your boat. Unless your whisker pole is getting particularly heavy or long you'll be fine without it. What will happen is you will close down the leech a bit but frankly downwind sailing is not real dependent on perfect sail shape.

FWIW, here it is a picture of my 23' boat rolling along with a homemade whisker pole made out of a sturdier than normal twist extension, a snap clip and a chopped up paint roller set to a point. You could argue that the pad eye coule be another foot up the mast but I can't see it affecting sail shape much if at all.

SOrry for the hijack but I would sure like some pics of your rig on this if you have them....I like it!!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 06-27-2013
TQA's Avatar
TQA TQA is offline
Bombay Explorer 44
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,700
Thanks: 0
Thanked 59 Times in 55 Posts
Rep Power: 6
TQA is on a distinguished road
Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

Cut down windsurfer masts work as well if you want to go the DIY route.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 06-27-2013
grumpy old man
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,793
Thanks: 1
Thanked 81 Times in 77 Posts
Rep Power: 4
bobperry will become famous soon enough
Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

You can use a pad eye on the mast in line with your genny clew. You do not need a topping lift. The leech of the jib will do that job. If it is just a whisker pole it will never see the compressive loads a spin pole sees so you can go light on the whisker pole.
jameswilson29 likes this.
__________________
Please visit my blog. It's fun to read.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Bob's Blog ....

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Please also visit my new web site
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 06-27-2013
deltaten's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Lancaster Co. PA/ North East, MD
Posts: 759
Thanks: 7
Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 3
deltaten is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to deltaten
Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

I used my painter's pole boat hook a few weeks ago. I put the screw-on boat hook thru the gorilla loop at the clew/jib sheet point and loosely tied the poly rope wrist strap to the main halyard cleat on the mast. Screw/twist till it's loose, extend as needed, lock 'er down and let 'er ride !
__________________
S/V Chrysalis
'80 Watkins 27
North East, MD
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 06-27-2013
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Norwalk, CT
Posts: 68
Thanks: 2
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 7
sonosail is on a distinguished road
Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

Quote:
Originally Posted by weinie View Post
I am also assuming one can use the mainsail's topping lift for the pole, correct?
You don't want to use the mainsail topping lift. It emerges from the mast the wrong way.
An extra jib halyard should work well enough if you have one.
Also, I recommend buying the slightly more expensive line adjustable pole.
My experience with the twist adjustable ones has not been positive.

rb
__________________
Randy Browning
Norwalk, CT USA

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
The Following User Says Thank You to sonosail For This Useful Post:
DJR351 (07-06-2013)
  #10  
Old 06-27-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: new england
Posts: 1,862
Thanks: 34
Thanked 35 Times in 32 Posts
Rep Power: 3
outbound is on a distinguished road
Re: Talk to me about whisker poles!

When I bought one a few weeks back Forespar was having a rebate promotion. They have all aluminum, 1/2+ 1/2 ,all carbon. Might be a good idea to check if you can still get a price break. A surprising amount of force is generated in the pole when you use it with any wind up. Like using a preventer on the main having your jib poled out takes some of the excitement out in heavy winds. Makes for better shape and I think less wear and tear on the sail. Have a carbon one due to size and being a feeble old man. Think it's a silly expense unless you have to do it like I did. Think getting a good store bought telescoping one is worth it as it makes it safer with less foredeck gymnastics and allows use on any sail. Having some form of fore guy/after guy or at least some way to keep the pole down makes it less scary as well.
sonosail likes this.
__________________
s/v Hippocampus
Outbound 46
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Whisker Poles - How Often Do You Use Them? montenido General Discussion (sailing related) 39 12-20-2008 02:36 AM
Whisker Poles RichardElliott Gear & Maintenance 1 02-11-2003 11:27 AM
used whisker poles chris1f Gear & Maintenance 1 06-15-2002 02:18 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:32 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.