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Hmmm... I'd like to learn more about the Haystack. I have never heard of her. Just wonder how is her down performance


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At any rate, I am planning on moving back to south florida so I want to get a boat 28-35 feet that can cruise coastally up and down the coast, in the keys, cross the Gulf to the Bahamas and back. I am not crazy about cruising boats that heel alot--the boats I have been on in the ocean were heavy and did not heel that much (Dufour Gib'Sea 50, Pearson 50, Island Packet 32).
I'm nearing retirement and am seeking a safe, heavy, tub and am not looking for sailing thrills, chills, or spills.
Plus, I need to get a boat 50K or less.....
The most effective way to reduce heeling is to reduce sail or let the sail out. If this can't be done immediately and you are at the helm is to head into the wind. Over canvas will often get your in trouble when you are still learning in any particular boats. Conservative helps to gain confidence.

27 or 32 ft boat is too small for my taste. We all worked so hard in our life. I would rather get a slightly bigger boat and enjoying it. Doing it right the first time is often cheaper in the long one. For $50K you can buy lot of boat. There are plenty around for mid size entry boats from here Chesapeake to Florida. Start looking even if you are not ready to buy. It is hard to know the boar is a good buy until you know what market out there. The more you look, the more you know what you want and what you don't want.

If you don't have much experience in chartering or sailing in the bay. It is important that you know how to use the engine to move the boat comfortably. If there is too much wind for you to handle, you can drop your sail and start using the engine to get you out of the trouble.

I would suggest you to practice Figure 8 forward and reverse between two buoys or crab pots in a proper distance at the very beginning of your chartering. Practice this in calm day and windy day. Every boat moves differently in reverse; thus it is good to know before hand.


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A haystack can not sail to windward......I think that was his point.

There are better and worse sailing Island Packet models. The IP 27 is not one of the better sailing models.

As for Advocate 77's long term boat buying goals for South Florida, there are a bunch of choices out there, but the IP 27 would be very low on my list of recommendations, but it would still might be on the list.

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Thanks for the clarification about the haystack, Jeff. I sorta thought he was just slamming the Island Packets in general. The OP said he was looking at a 29 and 31 IP, and was looking up to 35 feet in general. My IP31 has sailed the Florida and Bahama waters since 1985 with about 15 years sailing the Chesapeake (where Island Packets are terribly suited for sailing). Does anybody have a list of the best production sailboats that one should buy, kinda like a Consumer Reports rating of sailboats? If upwind performance is the ultimate determinant in a purchase consideration, then we should all be sailing Hinckleys... I guess
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...Does anybody have a list of the best production sailboats that one should buy, kinda like a Consumer Reports rating of sailboats? ...
This would be impossible. Too many variables. My best boat for where I am in life, geographically, sailing goals, etc. is not your best boat.

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I like the Annapolis idea. Good close hauled sail for 4 hours picking up a mooring under the Spa Creek bridge. Water taxi and town should keep the teen occupied.

My experience on the Magothy in the summer is that's its super crowded as JeffH mentioned, especially with power boaters and not just weekends. I would not swim there either. We avoid it till fall.

You could then broad reach it up under the bridge to the Patapsco River and into Bodkin Creek 4 hour sail, and a anchor in Jubb Cove. Nice quiet setting, not crowded like the Magothy, protected. Peaceful. Nice 4 hour beam reach the next day back to Rock Hall.

If. It was me i would opt for nature. An alternative is a broad reach to the Chester to either Grey's Inn Creek ( a favorite of ours) mentioned by Donna, or the Corsica River off the old Russian Embassy. Both Grey's and Corsica have Bald Eagle nests and far less boats in a complete nature setting vs the western shore of the Magothy or Patapso.

Don't expect great sailing in the IP, they are great for. Cruising with plenty of room for living, but generally are sluggish in light winds. Well made though.

Look for us well be on the Bay those three days.

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This would be impossible. Too many variables. My best boat for where I am in life, geographically, sailing goals, etc. is not your best boat.
Aw shucks.... I knew that. How true that not everyone wants or needs the same sailboat. I would never make a statement saying that "Catalinas are Crap" but priced well and not suitable for coastal cruising.
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