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...or the NY/NJ/suburban Philly folks that move out by me to be "in the country"; then bitch about the stank from the pig farms
Near me in Florida, a woman wanted to open a daycare on her property.
It was zoned agricultural so she need a waver. There were several objections.
So she withdraw the petition, put up a fence, and brought in 100 pigs.
They complained but the board simply said it's zoned agricultural, perfectly fine.
Several months later, she again petitioned for the waver. There were no objections.
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Kinda reminds me of the people around here who buy the cheaper property near the airport flight path and then complain about the airplane noise, and want to restrict flight operations of a major international airport!
they tried that here. I live under one of the lessor used flight paths into Atlantic City International. Across the stree they built all these -huge- townhomes that cost a few hundred grand to buy.

As soon as the airport needed to use the flightpath.. the complaints started to roll in. Thankfully being a township and not a town or a city, they all fell on deaf ears as a -lot- of people make their living at the airport and it's connected airbase and FAA tech centre

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Remember, one third of the population has mental health issues. You have to ignore a huge chunk of the population.

and, btw, if two of your friends are normal, it's you.


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Remember, one third of the population has mental health issues. You have to ignore a huge chunk of the population.

and, btw, if two of your friends are normal, it's you.
And another consideration!

My youngest son, now 30! Yikes! is frequently reminding me when he senses my frustration about some other human's "contribution", "Dad, remember, half the population is below average!" Ha!

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Near me in Florida, a woman wanted to open a daycare on her property.
It was zoned agricultural so she need a waver. There were several objections.
So she withdraw the petition, put up a fence, and brought in 100 pigs.
They complained but the board simply said it's zoned agricultural, perfectly fine.
Several months later, she again petitioned for the waver. There were no objections.
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I love how, instead of simply providing an explanation, the NY Waterway ferries passed the buck.
Of course they did: Those ferries have career bureaucrats at the top and you know how they are....

And as far as other people's intelligence is concern; Are they intelligent??
I know that they are not even close.

One other small detail: When I worked commercially, I normally used the VHF Ch 16/13 to let people know that I'm moving my vessel. Being neighborly to the homes around the marine basin. But not everyone has VHF or even the sense to listen to the appropriate radio channels.

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true Boasun.. but it was a Kayaker that was run down that started this. How many Kayaks have VHFs? I know I would because I know about them and how they can save your butt, but would the average Kayaker even know that handheld VHF radios evist.. or that they are used on the water?

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We have commuter ferries that go back and forth between downtown and the North Shore every 15min in peak times, and they have always sounded their horns upon departure. It just makes sense! They are hidden away inside a terminal where you can't see them, and when they leave they go pretty fast! If you are not familiar with the waterfront they can take you by surprise very easily. I monitor harbor traffic when I am in that area and I don't think I have ever heard their departures announced over vhf.

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Audible signals of intent have great value. They get delivered even when the recipient is looking at another situation or doing something that prevents radio communication. It shouldn't become a "variable" in the regs. Especially for fast vessels hurrying to meet a tight schedule. It is a CYA for the skipper.

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Battery Park City never was cheap housing, from the day it was built it was premium priced. Sounds like Wolfgang has way too much money if he could move down there with no knowledge of the neighborhood (the Battery, duh!) and now finds it inconvenient that he's living in a working harbor. Of course, the real luxury buildings all have double or triple-glazed windows to keep out the noise.

Maybe Woflgang needs to move next to an elevated subway line, so he can complain about those damned trains rumbling by all night instead?
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