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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

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Verbal fisticuffs over...dinghy lights??!!
As dear old Marty (blt2ski) would say "who'd a thunk it ?" .
Just be glad that they're not weighing in on sailing braless...

I think that we need another SolarStik thread.


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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

I think this is relevant to this discussion. "Vessels under oars" would include the dinghy.

The USCG is changing the inland rules to align with COLREGS. From the Final Rule dated 2 July 2014 (opens the PDF). I added the italics.

4. Lighting and Bells
We received two comments regarding
our proposed change to allow the
optional display of an all-round white
light by sailing vessels less than 7
meters in length and vessels under oars
in 83.25(d)(i) and (ii).
One commenter
agreed and noted that many of these
vessels lack an installed electrical
system and that the option to display an
all-round white light would provide an
additional level of flexibility to boaters.

We agree that boating and navigational
safety would only improve with this
optional lighting arrangement. The other
commenter, however, thought this
proposed change was contradictory,
confusing, and potentially dangerous.
He contended that a constant white light
with accompanying sidelights is
universally recognized as the navigation
lights of a power-driven vessel, and that
83.23(d) specifically authorizes this
combination for power-driven vessels of
less than 12 meters in length. As an
alternative, he recommended that we
create a new signal utilizing alternately
flashing red and green lights in keeping
with the optional red over green
masthead lights authorized for sailing
vessels in 83.25(c) or prescribe that the
white light displayed by these small
sailing vessels or vessels under oars be
flashing at a frequency of 120 flashes or
more per minute (in accordance with
the definition of a flashing light in
83.21(f)). The Coast Guard agrees that
a white light with sidelights is
universally recognized as the navigation
light of a power-driven vessel, but
asserts that this rule would not allow
these small sailing vessels or vessels
under oars to be construed as power-
driven vessels because it provides that
a single white light would be displayed,
not red and green sidelights.

Secondly, we disagree with this
comment because, as the Navigation
Safety Advisory Council (NAVSAC) and
the National Boating Safety Advisory
Council (NBSAC) recommend, the
proposed change provides these smaller
vessels flexibility to enhance safety and
visibility. We also disagree with the
commenter’s assertion that the proposed
lighting option is unsafe; providing
these vessels with the ability to be better
seen would only enhance navigational
safety. The optional fixed white light we
propose is presented in the COLREGS
for vessels of less than 7 meters in
length whose maximum speed is less
than 7 knots. The Coast Guard believes
that application of the all-round white
light in the international rules is
complementary to this application
proposed by NAVSAC for the Inland
Navigational Rules. We believe that the
optional all-round white light proposed
in the NPRM as recommended by
NAVSAC and NBSAC provides
increased safety over the existing rule
which specified that a vessel meeting
the criteria was not required to be
lighted but may show a fixed white light
(white hand torch) which ‘‘shall be
exhibited in sufficient time to prevent
collision’’ (see 33 CFR 83.25(d)(i)).

(and it continues)

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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

It annoys the crap out of me that dingy manufactures haven't come into the 21st century and found a way to use LED bow lights permanently mounted on their smaller boats.

I have a Achilles, love it, but for $3000 I should get a $20 bow light run by two AA batteries don't ya think??? WTH

I resort to duct tape for the bow light...classy right


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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

Geez

We are known to use the old 'go-cup' technique. A translucent (not clear) drink cup over a flashlight



But then we got fancy and got a LUCI which is a solar powered folding light:


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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

I have tried a number of things over the 12 years I have been a liveaboard and a head torch works for me.

Cheap as chips.

I don't get blinded.

I can easily light up whatever I want.

My fancy LED one died so I am back on my reserve but one that switches from one LED to five then twelve is good.
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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

How about one of these?



With a clear/white lens, of course...
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if CruisingDad had been wearing that he might not have given himself a concussions too! Two for one!


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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

...and the siren could count as "some other means of making an efficient [sound] signal." (rule 33)
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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

+1 on a l.e.d. hiking type headlamp. They are useful for all sorts of things on a boat. One of the major functions of any dink light, perhaps THE major function is making light to let you find your keys and get into the cabin after a night of carousing about town. It also helps you determine if you are on the right boat

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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

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Can't say I'll always use mine, particularly in a remote spot with no other traffic about... But in some areas - like South Florida, in particular - a failure to display proper lights, you're simply making yourself a target of a 'visit' from the water cops, and a guaranteed citation...
... be aware that the FWC is now checking the mandated height above the water/boat for the all-around white light on dinghies. If I remember correctly it must be 48 (?) inches above the dink's stern, definitely not the typical 'stuck to the top of an OB with a suction cup'. There were lots of BS public meetings with the FWC in the keys last winter over draconian and overzealous enforcement. The sum of those meetings was: there is no excuse for not anally following each and every boating law no matter how inane or not widely published. Such is just the typical 'revenue grab'.
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