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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

Thank you Coquina! These may be exactly what I am looking for and if I still have internet tomorrow (and I'm not too busy fending off the drag-fest) as Chantal passes by, I shall order some.
For our part, the point is not legality, but being seen, period. And if fortune continues to smile upon us we will never have to deal with the water nazis of Florida, Marathon in particularly, ever again.
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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

Whats exactly is your point Minnie? My running lights are not on the dingy when its hanging on the davits for reasons stated previously, f'in dingy manufactures apparently think like you and don't use running lights (until you get into the larger, faster dingies/tenders).

My all around white light and r/g bow light are in a dingy bag thats is kept in a locker on the mother ship until the dingy is deployed.
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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

Capta, the lights regulations are International - not US. And, those regulations have been around for more than a century. Guess you just have been very fortunate in that someone has not run over your dink in the middle of the night, or someone in another country just don't care if you get run over and die.

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Last time I checked, running lights were required for all vessels, powered, sail or rowed. You may want to take a look at Navigation light - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you want specifics for each state, especially Florida, try rowing through Boot Key Harbor in January at night with no lights at all. Someone in a uniform will politely explain the law to you, chapter and verse, while he or she writes you a citation that will really piss you off. Same holds true with anchor lights. There were a lot of unhappy campers that thought because they were on a mooring ball they didn't need anchor lights - WRONG! Yep, they were cited as well.

Good luck on staying alive very long while running that dink at night with no lights.

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Straying Off Topic I know but re the anchor light when moored and nav lights on a dinghy .... they are purely local regulations correct ?


See section re rowing boats and lights. According to the Colregs only a torch is required.

Now I don't see confirmation of this in the ColRegs but as far as I am aware if on a registered mooring no light is required nor is one required when anchored in a designated anchorage. Not to say don't light up just to be safe.
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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

Not sure about rowed, but under power, the international regs apply, at least that's my interpretation. I could be wrong, though. My wife tells me that all the time.

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Not sure about rowed, but under power, the international regs apply, at least that's my interpretation. I could be wrong, though. My wife tells me that all the time.

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You too eh ? Thing that really bugs me is that she of course is usually correct.

Actually though .... power under seven metres and max speed no more than seven knots must carry white light.

So despite what they say size really does matter. I guess she was right again.
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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

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If you want specifics for each state, especially Florida, try rowing through Boot Key Harbor in January at night with no lights at all. Someone in a uniform will politely explain the law to you, chapter and verse, while he or she writes you a citation that will really piss you off. Same holds true with anchor lights. There were a lot of unhappy campers that thought because they were on a mooring ball they didn't need anchor lights - WRONG! Yep, they were cited as well.
Here's some further explanation of the confusing situation that exists in the Boot Key Harbor mooring field...

Cruiser's Net » Archive » Where Anchor Lights Are Required in The Florida Keys ? It May Surprise You
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Whats exactly is your point Minnie? My running lights are not on the dingy when its hanging on the davits for reasons stated previously, f'in dingy manufactures apparently think like you and don't use running lights (until you get into the larger, faster dingies/tenders).

My all around white light and r/g bow light are in a dingy bag thats is kept in a locker on the mother ship until the dingy is deployed.
I don't get what is so unclear to you. I mentioned dinghies witnessed at the transient dinghy dock, not on their davits.
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Re: Do you use dinghy lights?

Here's a clever solution to the problem of mounting bow/side lights... Not entirely copacetic, as they can be visible from points further aft than a legal sidelight should be, but still - certainly better than nothing...

Panbo: The Marine Electronics Hub: Life Gear LED Glow Sticks, a nav light solution for tenders?



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Straying Off Topic I know but re the anchor light when moored and nav lights on a dinghy .... they are purely local regulations correct ?

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Not local, federal regs. Local can be even more strict;

Navigation Rules Online

Rule 23 - Power-driven Vessels Underway Return to the top of the page
(a) A power-driven vessel underway shall exhibit (click on icon to see picture Power Driven Vessel Underway 50m or greater
(i) a masthead light forward;
(ii) a second masthead light abaft of and higher than the forward one; except that a vessel of less than 50 meters in length shall not be obliged to exhibit such a light but may do so;Power Driven Vessel Underway less than 50m
(iii) sidelights: and
(iv) a sternlight.

(b) An air-cushion vessel when operating in nondisplacement mode shall, in addition to the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) Air Cushion Vessel in Displacement Mode of this Rule, exhibit an all-round flashing yellow light, where it can best be seen. Air Cushion Vessel in Nondisplacement Mode

[(c) A WIG craft only when taking off, landing and in flight near the surface shall, in addition to the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) of this Rule, exhibit a high intensity all-round flashing red light.]

(c | d) (i) A power-driven vessel of less than 12 meters in length may in lieu of the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) of this Rule exhibit an all-round white light and sidelights. Power Driven Vessel less than 12m

[(ii) a power-driven vessel of less than 7 meters in length whose maximum speed does not exceed 7 knots may in lieu of the lights prescribed in paragraph (a) of this Rule exhibit an all-round white light and shall, if practicable, also exhibit sidelights.] Power Driven Vessel less than 7m [(iii) the masthead light or all-round white light on a power-driven vessel of less than 12 meters in length may be displaced from the fore and aft centerline of the vessel if centerline fitting is not practicable, provided the sidelights are combined in one lantern which shall be carried on the fore and aft centerline of the vessel or located as nearly as practicable in the same fore and aft line as the masthead light or the all-round white light.]
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