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Boaters Bowditch is a very modern and a useful book on navigation, though not very applicable to I14 sailing.
The American Practical Navigator by Nathaniel Bowditch was originally published in 1802. It was subsequently updated several times - I have a 2002 edition which I believe was the last update. I think Boaters Bowditch is intended to be a modern version although I haven't actually seen a copy. BUT it was intended to be humorous, hence the ... what is it with this thread??
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Wow, some of you are so harsh and judgmental. All Steve did was ask for some advise, and you ripped him to shreds without many details, inventing your own as this thread went along.

Best of luck Steve, and ignore all these negative and rude people on here. If I were you, I would seek advise elsewhere.
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Re: spent my life savings on a boat, looking for work.

So let me get this straight, OP comes on here and states he sunk his money in a boat, lost his job and asks for help and by doing so he is chastised, rather vehemently, as a ne'er do well, stoner, senseless idiot by some and encouraged by a few. He comes back on a lobs a few insult bombs of his own to clarify his situation, which would have helped at the beginning and we wonder why (in other threads) the younger generation doesn't want to sail with us. I applaud him on being 19 and knowing he wants to be a world class racer, at 19 I wanted to sail but didn't know how to achieve that in landlocked Indiana. Fast forward 30 years, I've got a great job, wife, two great kids, start a business for my wife, she gets cancer, we have to close our business, I have to sell the boat, glad I didn't list all this then I'd have been blasted for not being better prepared. Steve, don't let the comments of a few deter you from your dream, at the end of the day it is your dream not theirs. Oh, by the way since that time my wife is in remission, I have bought two other boats and just picked up a 16 footer for my son as a first boat.
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Re: spent my life savings on a boat, looking for work.

I apologized to the OP publicly for lambasting his thread title and life savings remarks.

I stand by the buying a boat when you were jobless argument.
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Work on a crew or in a marina in somewhere warm and populated. Problem solved. Sell your boat for the travel money.
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I have to say, it's not the other posters that are trying to make you look bad. You seem to be doing a fine job of that yourself. They're only making themselves look bad.

If I'm not mistaken, you're the one who came here looking for help and advice. Some people gave you good advice, and some gave you bad advice. That's what you get in a public forum.

I don't think anyone cares whether you bought a tiny pleasure dinghy or a "world class racing skiff." The fact is it seems like you bought a high-dollar luxury item (yes, it is a luxury item - it's nowhere near a necessity) without the forethought of how to fund either it or yourself. This has little to do with insulting your boat. This has everything to do with fiscal and life responsibility.

We've all been 19 with dreams and aspirations; we've all purchased things that haven't been in our best long-term interest. That doesn't make you a bad person, or necessarily make your purchase a bad decision. It's your life. Do what you want with it. But saying "world class racing skiff" in 3 consecutive posts does not address the core issue - you're jobless with an expensive racing boat and no extra funds. That's what needs to be fixed, not people calling your dinghy exactly what it is.
I was trying to redeem myself from being torn apart!
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I apologized to the OP publicly for lambasting his thread title and life savings remarks.

I stand by the buying a boat when you were jobless argument.
well it was actually a smart investment.. if i sell one set of sails i will almost double the money i payed for the boat. but i would rather not sell my gear.
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I went back and looked at his profile again...

He states he is a sailing instructor, a lifeguard, and some other stuff, as well as having worked in some sort of furniture business. So, he seems to be able to work, but then I looked at the photo albums...

The P*$$y, money, weed photo in particular gives me an impression that perhaps he is not at all focused on work so much. I may just be old and not in touch with today's kids, but the kids I know who are successful are not focused on p*$$y or weed, and really money is not their highest priority either, they focus on learning to do their jobs well, and on being good at the things they choose to do, so that they can become successful. They all do silly stuff, I did when I was young too. They all do things that could best be called learning experiences, or teaching opportunities or whatever you call a screwup, but they take their lumps and continue on, and keep a smile on their faces because no one likes a frowned up kid.

My first impression when I read the OP was that he was kind of doing a little bit of a backdoor kind of begging, maybe I was wrong, hopefully. Yes we teased him about his tiny little boat, but not because it was small, at least not on my part, but more because it seemed to be too small to spend all the money one might possess on. If it had been something that could conceivably be a live aboard, I would have been far more ready to say "good on you", but basically it is a toy. Not due to the size, but due to the usage it is intended for, and buying a toy that takes all of your money when you have little and then quitting your job over some sort of suspect situation like harassment to me seems irresponsible. My guess is kind of harsh, but I am guessing the harassment consisted of things like "Boy, if you do not get your butt to work on time and sober, you are going to be fired" or "no, you cannot have Wednesday off, we have production to meet, and you will have to tell your friends you have a job and cannot go play" . I hope I am wrong, but as a business owner for many years, who has faced, and won, frivolous law suits from people who were fired or quit before I could fire them for being drunks, lazy, or just plain nuts, whenever I see something like "I quit my last job because I was being harassed" I cringe and pass on employing the person.

Zeehag was spot on in saying you stay on and settle it, or go to court and settle it and get your job back with some extra pay, or you are a quitter. If someone quits or is fired and then comes back and claims harassment, to me that is someone trying to get paid for nothing.
its graffiti on a public skate park... you have some serious issues if your spending your time on the internet tearing apart a 19 year old. go live your life.
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Here's the pic in question:
He's skateboarding- I'm not sure he's responsible for the tagging that is in the background, which mark focused on:



BTW. here's the rest of the album:
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the kid's a sailor. with a boat. with acceptable taste in beer. looking for a job. anything else is inference.
thank you! no i am not responsible! its been there long before i started long boarding.
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Ok as happens with myself heat long day of work and lack of sleeping ability makes me less than useful at times. So I AM sorry for being SO harsh. However I am still on Marks side of the channel on this. He spent all his money on a toy that he seems unable to properly pay for and currently has no job. Thats all im saying on that subject.

The rest? Yea hes 19. Hes got his whole life. I was 23 when I bought Strong Back. I went broke twice but tis dee life of a boat owner is tis. At least one going to school while waiting tables and refitting a sailboat. It aint easy or cheap- can vouch for that.

Smoking weed and girls? Sounds normal to me- however weed lowers work ethics in young men because often moderation is not properly practiced. This is for off topic however.

Chapmans and bowditch though outdated perhaps still should be required reading (maybe not so much the bowditch- very mathematical is tis.)

Im sorry I was so callous but I was just thrown off by "life savings" "14' boat" and "no job."

Welcome aboard matey. I sincerely wish you well. It sucks having no job. When I moved to NSB three weeks ago I had no job and like 300$ left (not including investments which stay untouched for at least two more decades).
I spent the first week hitting all the restaurants for serving or bar tending and got nothing but turn downs even with 7+ years experience. Persistence is key. I called back the best jobs three times or more and was getting inklings of interviews to come perhaps but I could not wait. So then I made a resume detailing my college education and construction experience and went to all of the construction contractors, electricians, and masons in town.

By the 9th day here I had three jobs. The job I am keeping is seriously the best job in town for my situation. Persistence pays off.

Now I work evenings only. Spend my days fixing the last 3 boat projects I have (Cutting out sole area around V-berth and relaying glass, refoaming centerboard tube to prevent flooding in windward tacks and heavy swells, and reinstalling my Nico Solar Vent fan after I repoxy a raw fiberglass area that has let some water wick in over the months)

So your 19- get a job, spend less money on pot and girls, invest money early and often, sail when the breeze is stiff, and ask questions here when books and google dont cover it.

Cheers.
wow... thank you for assuming i smoke pot. i actually gave my last 200 dollars to a guy with no home to get back to his family, thank you for trying to make me look bad though.
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