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BoatUS July Seaworthy Magazine arrived in my mailbox yesterday. There was an interesting article on inspecting older sailboats.

In the article they mentioned replacing cotter pins with welding rod. I've never heard of this before. What do you guys think of this? What are the recommended specs on the welding rod? Where do you find it? Any tips on installation, or do you just cut the right length and bend it on?

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BoatUS July Seaworthy Magazine arrived in my mailbox yesterday. There was an interesting article on inspecting older sailboats.

In the article they mentioned replacing cotter pins with welding rod. I've never heard of this before. What do you guys think of this? What are the recommended specs on the welding rod? Where do you find it? Any tips on installation, or do you just cut the right length and bend it on?

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Re: Replace cotter pins with welding rod

This comes from Brian Toss in his Rigger's Apprentice, a great book. The core s.s. from an old, broken teleflex control cable works fine and is a good way to re-use them.
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Re: Replace cotter pins with welding rod

As long as you are matching stainless steel hardware with stainless steel welding rods, I think it will work just fine. Welding rods are relatively cheap and easy to find. One example here:
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One interesting point that was made in the article is that the removal of welding wire is easier and faster in case of a de masting..which our vessel experienced..
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As long as you are matching stainless steel hardware with stainless steel welding rods, I think it will work just fine. Welding rods are relatively cheap and easy to find. One example here: Forney 44556 Stainless Steel Welding Rod, 3/32-Inch, 1/2-Pound
Not that kind of welding rod, you want stainless filler rod as used for TIG welding. Search Amazon for ER316L Stainless Steel TIG Welding Rods 1-Lb 1/16"x36"
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Not that kind of welding rod, you want stainless filler rod as used for TIG welding. Search Amazon for ER316L Stainless Steel TIG Welding Rods 1-Lb 1/16"x36"
You are absolutely right. I did not look at the rods in my link closely enough.

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Re: Replace cotter pins with welding rod

OK... So enlighten me, please....
How is it easier/better/faster? Why a de-masting as example?

Yes. cotter pins are fiddly; but other than a lack of one 'leg' ta fool with, what are the advantages?
From all appearances, it looks ta me like the ends would tuck under, avoiding dreaded cotter pin scrapes

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Re: Replace cotter pins with welding rod

I see the main advantage of this as not having to constantly buy new cotter pins:-)

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So it's using wire basically. I read it too, I'll stay with spiral rings.

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