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Bluefish are devious as well. Years ago, we were out off Montauk, fishing for tuna. Large 20# blues were mixed in. My friend, forever hence dubbed "Captain Hook," reached down to grab the leader as a wily, malicious Blue spit the hook out, skewering a very large hook dead center all the way through my buddy's palm. We had nothing stout enough to cut the big hook off to run it all the way through, so he rode all the way back to the hospital from 20 miles off, hook-in-hand

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While the great white shark gets most of the publicity, in reality, the most dangerous shark is the bull shark. It's far more aggressive than the great white, travels up to 600 miles into freshwater find find food and is responsible for far more fatal attacks on people than the GW. Ironically, a fish species inflicts far more serious injuries on people than all the shark species combined - bluefish. You'll find all this information in a book entitled "Dangerous Marine Animals."

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That Bull Sharks are more dangerous than Great White Sharks (or Tiger sharks for that matter) is debatable, and based primarily on the assumption that many attacks by Bulls are mistakenly attributed to Great Whites. However, Great Whites account for far more attributed unprovoked attacks.

In any case, I wouldn't mess with any of them. I once saw a Great White feeding on an Elephant Seal carcass just off of Año Nuevo. The shark was taking beach-ball sized chunks out of the seal. I was damned glad I was in a 40+ foot boat at the time.

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That Bull Sharks are more dangerous than Great White Sharks (or Tiger sharks for that matter) is debatable, and based primarily on the assumption that many attacks by Bulls are mistakenly attributed to Great Whites. However, Great Whites account for far more attributed unprovoked attacks.
And your source of information is?

Here's a link to mine: Dangerous Marine Animals: That Bite, Sting, Shock, Or Are Non-Edible - Bruce W. Halstead - Google Books

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That may be part of it. Bit I've always thought that the "humans naturally taste bad" notion is pretty much unproven, and mostly just wishful thinking. Although, humans do probably taste different, and leaner, from most marine mammals.

Taking one bite and backing off is actually part of the feeding behavior of Great Whites when attacking seal and sea lions. They bite, back off a bit, and let their prey bleed out. Many of the marine mammals they eat are as big or bigger than the average GW, so there is a very real possibility of the shark getting injured while its "dinner" is thrashing about. Humans, unlike most GW prey, tend to get out of the water and/or get help from other humans as soon as they are hit. This is probably what leads to our relatively high survival rate in such interactions.
that makes perfect sense. One of the ways our pack behaviour lends itself well with our intelligence

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While the great white shark gets most of the publicity, in reality, the most dangerous shark is the bull shark. It's far more aggressive than the great white, travels up to 600 miles into freshwater find find food and is responsible for far more fatal attacks on people than the GW. Ironically, a fish species inflicts far more serious injuries on people than all the shark species combined - bluefish. You'll find all this information in a book entitled "Dangerous Marine Animals."

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Gary, are you sure it is bluefish? From my recollection and a wee bit of Google bluefish is a tasty treat and non poisonous. Blowfish, or Puffer Fish is on the other hand a very toxic critter.

If you have another bluefish in mind please share.

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Must be you don't have Bluefish down your way.

They are so numerous in certain years in the NE that you can almost walk on them. They are intense predators and watching large schools of them chase baitfish up out of the water can be quite impressive. Small ones, "snappers" are good to eat but they get oily and dry when they get past around 12." I think the statistic about injuries or "bites" probably comes more from careless fishermen trying to extract hooks than from attacks. I've never heard of an attack although I surely would not want to be in the water during a feeding frenzy. They are fun to catch and put up a pretty good fight.

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My guess is that Gary was putting it in on his phone or his computer corrected his spelling the wrong way, people do step on blowfish or puffer fish, and then they get sick and can die pretty quickly.

I think the most dangerous fish is probably spoiled fish...

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Well, I am a marine biologist ... and not the George Costanza type either.

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My guess is that Gary was putting it in on his phone or his computer corrected his spelling the wrong way, people do step on blowfish or puffer fish, and then they get sick and can die pretty quickly.
I think you ar thinking of Lion Fish. Those have poisonous tips on their fins. Puffer or Blow fish expand themselves to look bigger and some have spines that stick out. They are poisonous due to a gland in their body. A delicacy in Japan, if you get poisoned, they do not have enough time to get you to the hospital before your heart stops and you die

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people do step on blowfish or puffer fish
I think you mean scorpion fish & stone fish. Lion fish are free swimmers,
you are not likely to step on one, but watch out for those long spiny fins.
A puffer can bite something fierce, but don't have spiny fins (except porcupine
fish, who are covered with them, but they are not poisonous). If you clean
them properly, they're delicious; I've been doing it for fifty years. No
bones - only a cartilaginous backbone.

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