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yeah, the fleet coming in at Oregon Inlet can be quite a show, alright... Those guys on the bridge, facing aft in Reverse Rodeo Cowboy-style, they're all trying to outdo each other in front of the crowd...

Funny, though - if you're at the Fishing Center in the off-season without the crowd of tourists gathered to watch, the whole show is much more tame... These guys are pros, after all, and subscribe a bit more to the theory that "Slow Is Pro", when no one is around to impress... :-)

I used to love stopping at the Fishing Center, really a pity that Oregon Inlet is no longer a viable route, at least for the foreseeable future...
They were showing off for sure, as they can. The testosterone was rather high around there I would equate it to another sailor on the same tack to a nearby boat, its hard not to want to trim your sails a little more and see how your skills compare to theirs

BTW, when you say "no longer a viable route", what are you referring? The constant shoaling?
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Re: Docking for Dummies

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You have the same problem that I do then.

When you are trying to turn you need to get the bow through the wind. The wind pushes excessively on the freeboard of the boat, and is overpowering the turning force that you can get with the rudder.

You can reduce the effects of prop walk by doing a big burst of reverse, then putting the engine back into idle/neutral. That does help the reverse slow speed turning of the boat. Or you can go out backwards, which I think does work better in many situations on our boat.

I love the 28-2, but that freeboard really does have some costs.
I second this one; Short bursts will reduce the prop walk a lot.
Also, practice ... a LOT. find a buoy, do it.
over and over.
I always back into our slip and try to keep the speed around 1.7 knots, with a minimum of 1.5 and max of 2.0
This way it steers well, stops quick enough and has enough speed to overcome any wind push.
I do have to say, the bigger the boat, the easier it gets.
I always had a much harder time with a 28 and a 32 footer. Current boat is 47 ft and it seems much easier. Boat characteristics also matter of course.
Don't get nervous. Keep checking everything, speed, position, rotation of boat and where the dock is. over and over.
Also make sure you know what the wind does, where it comes from and what it wants to do with your boat. Correct for it a little bit.

Also, you could add some plastic bumpers to absorb slow impacts. Sometimes it helps people just to have it, and not even really need it.
Whatever you do, stay calm. Tune out people watching you. Don't be afraid to abort the docking and start over (if you can). I really don't give 2 cents for people watching.

Good luck, you will get it.
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I also have started to push my boat into reverse rather than using the engine. This eliminates prop walk and gives good steerage at low speeds. Obviously this depends heavily on the dock arrangement and how comfortable you are at jumping onto the foredeck of a (very slowly) moving boat.
I totally disagree with this technique I highlighted. Rather push off using a boat hook so you're already on the boat.
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Re: Docking for Dummies

I'm walking the boat backwards in my slip. I can't push it off with a boat hook, I would hit my neighbor. There is also crew on the boat who knows how to dock, so I feel like it is a safe operation.

I'm walking about 20' with the boat, getting it up to a slow walking speed (maybe 1 knot) so that the rudder works effectively. It works for me, and many of my slip neighbors do the same thing.
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There we go, tried uploading from my phone but didnt work...the red shows the slip I was in





This one shows the marina/slip with a catamaran at the pumpout...you can see our boat in the slip with dingy on the davit



And a closer look

Wow! You must have a really tall mast
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Oh come now, do not play like you did not get it that it looked like one of those photos people take from their mast...only a lot higher up.
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nope didn't get it...perhaps I lack imagination
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nope didn't get it...perhaps I lack imagination
Perhaps your imagination lies in other places. I bet you are one of those chefs that could go onto that Chopped show and figure out what to do with the chiclets, salmon, and lawn clippings...me I would grill the salmon, feed the lawn clippings to a goat, and chew the chiclets as I walked out the door.
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Windage will never overcome wind.
Rig a bannister line on your slip, and a bow dockline long enough to control from the cockpit. when departing, uncleat the bowline, pas ti thorugh your bannister line, and carry the bitter end back with you to the cockpit to maintain control. as you back out, the bow line will slide along the bannister, then when you are in the fairway, release the bitter end and retrieve the line. you will look like a rockstar every time.
I have bannister lines in my slip, but I'm having trouble working through this description to get a visual. If I need to back out to starboard and then turn into the wind and head port, where are the lines in this scenario? (Are there any pictures of how this works?)
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