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Perhaps he planned on tying up at the bridge since he had all his fenders out!
The bridge opens at fixed times
at 09:05, 12:05, 14:05, 18:05 and 20:05
sat/sun also at 16:05

It's more likely that the where tied off at a close by bar waiting for the bridge to open and forgot the time..
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I'm impressed by how much force it took before the mast failed. It lifted the bow out of the water almost 3 feet before it collapsed.
I was thinking that if he got under a bridge just a little bit sooner his mast would have been pinched by the closing bridge, or got pushed down causing the boat to flood and sink. As Yoda would have said: "Lucky he was"
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Re: oops

That looks like Annapolis, does anyone know where that was taken?
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That looks like Annapolis, does anyone know where that was taken?
Tønsberg in Norway - far from Annapolis

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Re: oops

I guess the video confirms that more than just "Powerboaters Are Funny".
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My guess on what happened

Since there are two boats, it may not be as simple as one guy completely oblivious. The boats had probably seen the bridge open and boats before them go under the open bridge. The may have even called the bridge tender and let them know that they were coming. They were probably a little further away and once the bridge tender saw a big gap between the boats for them and then nothing, he thought everyone was through and the bridge closing sequence was started. Not all bridges have alarms and lights for the boaters. Or, they may have seen the open bridge, thought it was going to stay open for them, thought bridge tender knew they were coming (visual) even though they didn't call, and just went for it.

It is sometimes difficult to see the start of the bridge close as the are often pretty open and until there are near the midpoint of their traverse, a small change on either end (horizontal or vertical) is difficult to perceive. Also, the skipper (you) are also trying to keep a course, often in a tight channel, and current through some bridges is fast, so steerage needs to be maintained, especially with the current. Focus on these things, draws your attention away from the start of a bridge closing until it is too late.

At some point you are fully committed and you just can't stop and brake. The first guy was at that point. The second guy just had enough time to change course. A second later, he would have been screwed.

We have to go under a few swing and draw bridges to/from our winter slumber yard, and it is always uneasy. Current through boat is often a little off angle to the narrow (30 - 40 ft) and 100 ft long slot. You have to go through at 5-6 kts else there is a change of hitting the walls from the cross current.

When going under/through a draw or swing bridge, I typically ask the bridge tender to open the bridge about 300-500 yards away. They respond with a wait time or say they the bridge will be open in 2-3 minutes. I continue a slow pace, just enough to keep steerage, towards the bridge. Once I see the bridge more than halfway open, I increase speed and move towards the bridge, calling back to the tender when I am about 200 ft away to announce that I am starting my pass under/through to let them know I am committing myself. Once fully through, I call back, say that I am safely through and thank them for their help.

May seem over talkative, but I'd rather have them know where I am at all times than for them to guess and start closing the bridge while I am transiting it.
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...... but surely you would not be so stupid as to attack a closing bridge at full speed ? I simply find it hard to believe that anyone is dim enough to race a closing bridge.

I do appreciate your point re current but that hardly seems the case here.
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...... but surely you would not be so stupid as to attack a closing bridge at full speed ? I simply find it hard to believe that anyone is dim enough to race a closing bridge.
Absolutely not. What these guys did was idiotic. I always approach an open bridge cautiously, but once past the point of no return, I try to get through as quickly and safely as possible in case the bridge does start to close.

I viewed the video again, and boat boats are flat out flying to beat the bridge. The bow wave on the first boat is impressive.

My guess is both boats saw it start to close, underestimated how fast it was closing and then realized too late that they (first boat) were screwed. If you look at the very beginning of the video, both boats are almost dead even until the smaller boat guns it and gets caught.
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Re: oops

Watching the captain carefully he appears to be blinded by the sun. He is covering his eyes and as soon as he comes into shadow he realizes his error. He is seen leaning down to grab controls but it is too late. Speaks for the need for good sunglasses??? :-)
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