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Hmmm, change of heart, eh?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody died on this voyage, right?
No, not at all.

In the Rule 62' case, there was no evidence to mistreatment from the captain. No survivors has spoken since the tragedy. In this case, there were plenty of evidence at hand.

Not sure what is your problem?


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You should read up on the HMS Bounty story. You owe it to yourself. I recommend Caroline Alexander book, The Bounty, based on a very thorough research. Bligh was a consummate navigator, sailor, and captain. None of his men were shanghaied and the mutiny happened in 1789, mostly because large part of the crew wanted to stay on Tahiti.
Sorry I was loose with the facts. Just a little hyperbole. Didn't mean to impugn Capt. Bligh, by using the connotation of his name. Just ordered a used hardcover copy of Alexander's book for 44 cents! (love the used book selections on Amazon!)Thanks for the recommendation.
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HOLY MOLLY BATMAN there is a Sushi chief/captain Harry and he is looking for help at his eatery.
If you want to apply here is the link.
Sushi Chef and / or Preparation Helper - Los Angeles - Sushi A GoGo

Drop a line to Harry, let him know you like sailing.

Here are the requirements:
Required Experience:
Clean good public image and appearance.
Some knowledge of Sushi.
Dependable, with a cooperative nature.
To my understanding and my converstation with them before the hell broke loose, they employ no one other than the recent immigrants who do not know their rights better. They also import Sushi chef trainee directly from Sushi schools in Japan and pay less than minimal wages and housing allowance. They have an well oiled system, cycling thru with unlimited supply cheap labor from aboard.


This is just sad.


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Not yet, one step at a time.

1. Filing the compliants
2. DOL reviews the case and evidences
3. DOL takes action if any
4. DOL open mediation and compensation
4. DOL grants the right to sue
5. Looking for a lawyer

This will take months and years perhaps, Patience is a virtue. Even they win, they will lose big time.
Why Bother? You survived. Your decision to get on the boat. Poor decision making on the journey by you and Jake. Having an incompetent skipper at the wheel flying a kite at nite? After the 2nd nite you and jake didn't get it? Could of de escalated the situation early by heaving to, getting a good night rest, spliting up the crew so You and j\Jake were on different watches, one competent crew one incompetent crew...so all does not break loose and you are repeatedly woken up. Lot's of weird thing happening on your trip, and you the experienced crew/delivery/business/adventure kinda guy.

If you decide to sue, make sure you list that on your next crew qualification CV. Sure be get lots of crew offers after that.


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Not yet, one step at a time.

1. Filing the compliants
2. DOL reviews the case and evidences
3. DOL takes action if any
4. DOL open mediation and compensation
4. DOL grants the right to sue
5. Looking for a lawyer

This will take months and years perhaps, Patience is a virtue. Even they win, they will lose big time.
Will you put this kind of effort and time into something like that?
There are plenty of much easier ways to get even with this dude if that is your point, teaching him a lesson at the same time.
In general I avoid stepping into sh..t and I'm cleaning up as soon as possible after I do.

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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

Nice write-up rockDawg.

I have had an unpleasant experience crewing on a boat in a regatta. Only 2 days/one night, fortunately. I had actually sailed with this captain before, but that wasn't enough to know his actual abilities or how he "played with others".

Another time, I crewed for i2f and his wife, Melanie. We sailed from Green Cove Springs to Cartagena, Colombia. There were some moments that became uncomfortable, but nothing to get upset about. We had known each other for quite awhile, but being at sea for weeks at a time can become tiring, mentally.

I often look at "crew wanted" and "wanting to crew" posts. I just shake my head, wondering how things played out for anyone answering to these positions?

Don't slam the race committee. If you sign on as crew, you really should have done your homework on the skipper. Same for the skipper. Don't put inexperienced crew on your boat. At least not someone that has no idea of what it will be like once the starting gun fires. Certainly not on the Transpac!

Just my 2 cents.

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85 guests on this thread. I'd say this mutiny is making the rounds.


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None of his men were shanghaied and the mutiny happened in 1789, mostly because large part of the crew wanted to stay on Tahiti.
...where all the Tahitian women were topless...
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...where all the Tahitian women were topless...
I was a little disappointed that the gals did not come out in canoes to great us bearing their fruit....Can't blame the guys for wanting to stay in Tahiti...long days at sea with hard tack and biscuit, not to mention Bubba...


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