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Thanks for the heads up. We decided to make Brent Swain and Bob Perry a moderator for this thread. That will help calm things down. (snicker)

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285 guests viewing this thread? Hm. Maybe SA's mythical FP does have a few readers.

You must have quite an influence with the SA group as you are the one who posted it first and supplied the link and brought it to their attention.

Now that's what I call chumming the water


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You must have quite an influence with the SA group as you are the one who posted it first and supplied the link and brought it to their attention.

Now that's what I call chumming the water
Naa. No influence. But I hang out in both places - have for a long time. There's an absolutely incredible amount of experience and knowledge there (not to mention wit).

So, I like SA a lot (especially CA). When there's a great story like this that deals with a race sailors are interested in, I have no problem spreading the word. I'm just selective on the word I spread.

Anyway, they're good guys. Just a little edgier than most. I happen to like their "ilk".
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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

Me thinks RD might just have blown his (slim) chances on getting another gig in a major race....
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May be taken as blasphemy but methinks there's more to sailing than racing.It's obvious that there is more to racing than sailing.
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Naa. No influence. But I hang out in both places - have for a long time. There's an absolutely incredible amount of experience and knowledge there (not to mention wit).

So, I like SA a lot (especially CA). When there's a great story like this that deals with a race sailors are interested in, I have no problem spreading the word. I'm just selective on the word I spread.

Anyway, they're good guys. Just a little edgier than most. I happen to like their "ilk".
I agree with that. I also read a lot of their posts. I Dont get involved with them though. I respect the knowledge and information there. Having spent a number of years crewing in Annapolis races and a few Newport to Bermuda ones I understand their mentality also. Racing really helped me hone my sailing skills in terms of sail trim etc. I was always crew or navigator/ tactician in later years.

I have no where the skill or hard core ability as most on SA, but their viewpoints are kind of spot on and blunt without the nanny niceties you see here many times.

Their view of this situation has turned since the initial reactionary posts of incredulity have started weighing in also just like here. The more you think about this the more questions arise.

At least everyone survived and is safe. That's the most important think. Many lessons to be learned by all sides.

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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

Wow - so many levels of FAIL I don't know where to start.
RD - you showed stupendously bad judgement in even getting on that boat. I would not go from the fuel dock to the holding tank pumpout dock with that bunch, let alone out in the OCEAN farther than I could swim back to land. You have never flown a CHUTE? Really? WTF

How exactly is this going to work You don't know much and the rest know even less. I have turned down offshore passages with MUCH better crew than this because there were not enough experienced hands aboard. I ran a 2 good man 4 useless passenger offshore trip ONCE and vowed NEVER again and those 4 were pleasant if not especially good.

* As it happens, I was on the receiving end of a hysterical MAYDAY call once on a hot flat calm day. A voice screaming over and over "we have no water we have no oil". I was in a poor position to help, the calm having strectched my own supplies as well. As I was wondering what to do a calm voice came on and told me the first guy had been in the sun too long. I am wondering how the "we can't get along" calls went. If your posts are factually accurate including denial of water and physical attacks I would have been calling Mayday and setting off every beacon I could find, not just suggesting I was unhappy

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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

There are always two sides to every story, that's why my own post only wished RD well that he's back and suggested this had to be a good learning experience. I don't know the whole story, nor does anyone else here.

However, those that denigrate a fellow sailor who had a harrowing experience, regardless of fault, are seriously messing with karma. Particularly those that also seem to press 'like' on every single negative post toward the OP. No one here has experience beyond anything they may ever encounter.

There has been no investigation, no other stories, no other first hand observations, no data, but the convictions are rolling in. I'm not taking a side either way. Can't wait to see the reported vids. Maybe we'll hear from the owner.


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So...Where's the rest of the story?
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There are always two sides to every story, that's why my own post only wished RD well that he's back and suggested this had to be a good learning experience. I don't know the whole story, nor does anyone else here.

However, those that denigrate a fellow sailor who had a harrowing experience, regardless of fault, are seriously messing with karma. Particularly those that also seem to press 'like' on every single negative post toward the OP. No one here has experience beyond anything they may ever encounter.

There has been no investigation, no other stories, no other first hand observations, no data, but the convictions are rolling in. I'm not taking a side either way. Can't wait to see the reported vids. Maybe we'll hear from the owner.

Wow,

And here I always thought when a reader here presses "like" its because they agreed with what the others poster wrote.

I will have to consult my imaginary "karma" shrink. I didn't realize it was going to create and encourage bad juju.


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