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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

How about the RC? How in the hell did they sign off on this
Anyway, RD perhaps learned a valuable lesson in when to go Monty Python*

* RUN AWAY RUN AWAY

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This will give you an idea what happens when an incompetent crew meets up with real weather. You all were very lucky.


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RD may have made the mistake of not bailing on this rag-tag bunch before the start of the race (and THAT was a pretty serious mistake), HOWEVER, it is the skipper of the boat who is ultimately responsible for ALL the problems in this case:

- The skipper didn't properly prepare the boat
- The skipper didn't assemble an adequate crew for such a race
- The skipper didn't properly provision the boat
- The skipper didn't have the experience to be the skipper of a boat sailing 2000+ miles of open ocean
- The skipper (apparently) has absolutely no management skills (his ownership of a mediocre sushi bar notwithstanding)

Yes, RD may have been in over his head with respect to flying a spinnaker, but it was the skipper's responsibility to make sure that the crew could handle the sails. The skipper totally lost control of the situation because he could neither sail the boat himself, nor bring himself to handing over that responsibility to someone who could do so.

I don't think a lawsuit or complaint to the labor relations board is going to accomplish anything (other than just cause more grief and frustration). But writing up a concise, not-too-nasty article/letter to Latitude38 will almost certainly go a long way toward keeping "Harry" from roping another inexperienced crew into another such "adventure". Lat38 is THE sailing rag on the West Coast, and they often publish such letters. The editor may not agree with RD on everything, and subsequent letters are likely to be as diverse (and nasty) as some of the stuff here. But such a letter will get the word out.
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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

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How about the RC? How in the hell did they sign off on this ...
The buck stops with the skipper of the boat. No matter what other blame there is, it's ultimately the skipper's responsibility to make things work.
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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

Is there a link to the yellow brick trail the boat made?
I'd love to see it.
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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

True.....but if the "skipper" is THIS clueless...............he might not even KNOW that.
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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

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True.....but if the "skipper" is THIS clueless...............he might not even KNOW that.
Well, it looks like that's part of the problem. Just because he's got enough money to buy a big boat doesn't mean he's got the knowledge, or personality, to be in charge on a blue water passage. Best thing to do at this point is to make sure the word gets out so that others won't have to put up with his incompetence in a similar situation.
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Is there a link to the yellow brick trail the boat made?
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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

Oh Sal, you've got yourself into a donnybrook now.
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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

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RD may have made the mistake of not bailing on this rag-tag bunch before the start of the race (and THAT was a pretty serious mistake), HOWEVER, it is the skipper of the boat who is ultimately responsible for ALL the problems in this case:

- The skipper didn't properly prepare the boat
- The skipper didn't assemble an adequate crew for such a race
- The skipper didn't properly provision the boat
- The skipper didn't have the experience to be the skipper of a boat sailing 2000+ miles of open ocean
- The skipper (apparently) has absolutely no management skills (his ownership of a mediocre sushi bar notwithstanding)

Yes, RD may have been in over his head with respect to flying a spinnaker, but it was the skipper's responsibility to make sure that the crew could handle the sails. The skipper totally lost control of the situation because he could neither sail the boat himself, nor bring himself to handing over that responsibility to someone who could do so.
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Oh Sal, you've got yourself into a donnybrook now.
Really? How is that?
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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

And here all this time I thought you buy a boat to have fun and join the sailing community to enjoy the camaraderie of good friends.
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