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In the example I cited in my previous post...a very good friend of mine and his insurance company paid out $6M. I can't speak for your example or your D.A. I can tell you what happened in this instance.
Holy moly. Can you tell us want happened?
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Garr died last year.

That's another thing that bothers me about these two...the entire bit about "life threatening actions". What they were asked to do is just normal ocean racing stuff. Maybe I'm immune to it, having been naked under my foulie pants and barefoot on deck at midnight enough times.
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The took this mans boat over when there really was no imminent danger been proved. Just they were " uncomfortable" The water issue is a straw argument.
Speaking of straw arguments - where do you get that "they took the boat over"? Was Captain Furious locked below? Didn't he actually drive the boat as well?

Chef, you really do need to pay attention to the details. You're getting your demi glace all over your sleeves...and the ceiling...and the sous chef...
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http://67.15.208.115/printstory.php?...ySection=Local

Garr died last year.

That's another thing that bothers me about these two...the entire bit about "life threatening actions". What they were asked to do is just normal ocean racing stuff. Maybe I'm immune to it, having been naked under my foulie pants and barefoot on deck at midnight enough times.
Holy crap! Some serious badassery going on in that story:

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Meanwhile, four Air Force reservists were on their way. Stationed at the Kirtland Air Force Base’s Special Operations Squadron in New Mexico, they were in Portland for special training when they got the summons.

The reservists were flown on a MC-130 Coast Guard transport airplane in the middle of the night to the middle of the Pacific Ocean, according to an Air Force statement.

Shortly before midnight, the reservists parachuted 3,500 feet into the pitch-black ocean. After hitting the water, they inflated their Zodiac boat, gathered their medical equipment and traveled about a half-mile to the tanker where Garr was being treated for dehydration.

Once on board the tanker, the reservists inserted a chest tube in Garr’s hemorrhaging lung, gave him medicine and massaged his legs to keep the blood flowing.
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Maybe I'm immune to it, having been naked under my foulie pants and barefoot on deck at midnight enough times.
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My biggest concern is what happened to the Fettucini?

If they were short on water how did they boil up the noodles?
C'mon, man - everyone knows one of the greatest values of pasta offshore is that it can be cooked in seawater... :-)
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I agree...of course off shore racing is much harder and a different skill set than off shore cruising.....I have done both but never a 14 day race off shore. RD and Jake had 0 offshore race experience and one had no blue water experience even. Even more reason for them to want to learn and sign n with a veteran crew


The took this mans boat over when there really was no imminent danger been proved. Just they were " uncomfortable" The water issue is a straw argument

I would be careful ever including either of the, as crew to a race offshore or even a cruise lest their mutinous history repeat itself. They take no responsibility so they are bound to repeat their actions.
Yes, that is a tough part for me to swallow. For crew to take over the vessel, well, that just cannot happen unless extreme measures needed to be taken. But this wasn't a true mutiny...was it? RD was very colorful and brutal in his writing but I took his use of "mutiny" with a grain of salt. Disobeying orders is not mutiny. They didn't take his vessel. Am I looking at this all wrong?
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So Garr sued the owners for 6 million? I'm confused.
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So Garr sued the owners for 6 million? I'm confused.
He was awarded that in compensatory damages.
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Speaking of straw arguments - where do you get that "they took the boat over"? Was Captain Furious locked below? Didn't he actually drive the boat as well?

Chef, you really do need to pay attention to the details. You're getting your demi glace all over your sleeves...and the ceiling...and the sous chef...
That was actually glacé de viande, ( are you scrambling for the culinary dictionary now) . Demi glacé is a term only a person with pedestrian taste and limited food knowledge from a cook book would use. It is a term what a cheap person would use to impress others who don't know better. Demi glacé is to glacé de viande what a Golden Corral is to Peter Lugars in NYC.

While you are looking up definitions...look up mutiny. Not my word...Rockdawgs

Maybe those broken glasses are hurting your reading there Steve. Time for a new pair as them seem to cloud your vision so all you can think about is food...or silly shots about chefs. The boys were very proud that they threatened the Captain into submission

By the way Steve do you have a copy of the latest dictionary if not let me supply you with the definition of mutiny. Remember who posted those words...the person who you are the chief apologist for...Mr Rockdawg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutiny


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Mutiny is a conspiracy among members of a group of similarly situated individuals (typically members of the military; or the crew of any ship, even if they are civilians) to openly oppose, change or overthrow an authority to which they are subject. The term is commonly used for a rebellion among members of the military against their superior officer(s), but can also occasionally refer to any type of rebellion against an authority figure.
You can stop making this personal anytime now Steve. You seem to be tracking at me after I exposed your purposeful misrepresentation of the Captains restaurant review to bolster you point

You need to go back to you BFS thread ( its in big print so you can read without glasses) so the rest of us who understand mutiny means taking over a boat can continue without these personal shots


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