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That's great man, keep up the good work. Pity about the lack of breeze.
Thanks bro. I will.

And yeah, nothing worse than flapping sails for almost 24 hours straight.


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Really? Just what in that post did I say that got your knickers in a bunch?
Oh my knickers are in good comfy shape. I think it was one of your first posts on this thread defending harry that made me say,"here we go again" another typical racing douche talking stupid sh!t. The very base of where you guy's make your decisions, the very reason you are out there is to me pretty silly, so every thing you say is as well. When I load a boat up with provisions, I double up. 7 day's equals 14 of water etc. I'm an active merchant marine highly and constantly trained in safety at sea. I also single hand my personal boat on fairly decently long off shore passages. I live by the word of a 1600 master of tow who is my captain, and I've been skippering deliveries for over 20 years. I know what quality's a good captain needs to have. And I would expect my crew to mutiny if I was as poor as harry at it......most racers I've seen are pretty much dicks.

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over the finish time.
-In 2011 crewed the "Harvest Moon Regatta", a 150 mile race, on a different boat. There were 186 total boats in that race. We took 3rd in our division.
See, you were carrying too much water, you.....you....hang on, I gotta scroll up.......you "pedantic twit"
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See, you were carrying too much water, you.....you....hang on, I gotta scroll up.......you "pedantic twit"
Heh-heh. That was it! The damn water!

On that subject, Sal, where in the story do you come up with 18 days' worth of water? I don't see that stated anywhere.

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Oh my knickers are in good comfy shape. I think it was one of your first posts on this thread defending harry that made me say,"here we go again" another typical racing douche talking stupid sh!t. The very base of where you guy's make your decisions, the very reason you are out there is to me pretty silly, so every thing you say is as well. When I load a boat up with provisions, I double up. 7 day's equals 14 of water etc. I'm an active merchant marine highly and constantly trained in safety at sea. I also single hand my personal boat on fairly decently long off shore passages. I live by the word of a 1600 master of tow who is my captain, and I've been skippering deliveries for over 20 years. I know what quality's a good captain needs to have. And I would expect my crew to mutiny if I was as poor as harry at it......most racers I've seen are pretty much dicks.
Sir, when you're short/singlehanding, you can get away with doubling up. I had 5 people aboard for 13 days. I literally could not have fit 26 days of water on board without my rails being awash.

If you go back and read my posts, I never defended Harry. I have defended the position of Captain. I would respect that crewing for you even if I didn't agree with you. What I haven't done is defend or condone the behavior of rd and jake. That, I just cannot do.
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Heh-heh. That was it! The damn water!

On that subject, Sal, where in the story do you come up with 18 days' worth of water? I don't see that stated anywhere.

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It's buried in one of jakes few posts, after someone asks him if his fear was largely manufactured because he just didn't know what he didn't know.
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Really, this entire story hinges upon the rationing of water at sea. I don't have a water maker, so rationing began when we untied the lines. No one was ever thirsty, everyone was healthy, and we made landfall with four days of water on board.

I'll ask you guys who have made long passages w/o watermakers: do you ave a consumption plan, or do you just use it until you run out and die? IMHO, rationing of water is a fact of life at sea. I could never understand the circular logic of "we're going to run out of water, so I don't want to ration water", which in effect is what the last 70 pages has been about.
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Sir, when you're short/singlehanding, you can get away with doubling up. I had 5 people aboard for 13 days. I literally could not have fit 26 days of water on board without my rails being awash.

If you go back and read my posts, I never defended Harry. I have defended the position of Captain. I would respect that crewing for you even if I didn't agree with you. What I haven't done is defend or condone the behavior of rd and jake. That, I just cannot do.
Yeah, but there is a point where harry should have been hog tied, Jane as well. Those people were out of their friken minds. I, nor, any of us would of set foot on that boat. But, if I were there, harry would of been tied up and spoon fed 'till we arrived. The CG would of been notified of my actions and I'd challenge them in court with my head held high. These little racing games you guy's play do not give the skipper complete power, and as we know complete power can corrupt completely.
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Really, this entire story hinges upon the rationing of water at sea. I don't have a water maker, so rationing began when we untied the lines. No one was ever thirsty, everyone was healthy, and we made landfall with four days of water on board.

I'll ask you guys who have made long passages w/o watermakers: do you ave a consumption plan, or do you just use it until you run out and die? IMHO, rationing of water is a fact of life at sea. I could never understand the circular logic of "we're going to run out of water, so I don't want to ration water", which in effect is what the last 70 pages has been about.
My 28 footer has one 65 gal tank, one 50 gal tank I have 4 6 gal jerry cans and I bring about 8 cases of bottled water. and i have a hand pump de sal for emergency. It's all about water. and I stow nothing and I mean nothing above the water line.

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