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I see we have an alternate point of view on the water/AP and confirmation of the ranting and raving. That would get on my nerves.
As would hearing repeatedly the mantra "Sailor is not a noun, but a verb" get on mine :-)
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As would hearing repeatedly the mantra "Sailor is not a noun, but a verb" get on mine :-)
It's not a mantra, it's a way of life. It's traversing the inequities of finely tuned wind foils while wearing sea boots and cleaving a path and trying not to break a leg in bed while resting in a tropical paradise... or something like that.

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It's not a mantra, it's a way of life. It's traversing the inequities of finely tuned wind foils while wearing sea boots and cleaving a path and trying not to break a leg in bed while resting in a tropical paradise... or something like that.
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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

Wow - this boat was FULL of crazy
If that really is "Jane", I think a 10 minute conversation would have had me swimming for shore. I am starting to think they all deserved each other.
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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

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We had reason to believe that Dawg and Jonah(jake) were scuttling the water, to justify their violation of FCC title 14 regulations in calling PonPon. We caught The Dawg washing his eye glasses under running water for several minutes, although Windex, was stipulated as the solvent to use. At anytime they could have verified the on board water in the hold, as well as the bottled water. They never asked.
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There was 25 days worth of water on board. Crew could have verified by dropping a line and sinker into the holds to check! They never asked to!! 1.5 liters bottled was to drink on deck, and was supervised only after numerous partially drank from bottles were discovered. Jake had left water bottles scattered everywhere. We had reason to believe they could not be trusted not to skuttle the water, to avoid the FCC Title 14 Regulation Violation. Further the 1.5 liters wasn't punitive, it didn't include the beer, wine, soups, and juices consumed. How about that, not such a sexy story, heh? Jane
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Water issue pure fable. Could have been verified by Dawg and Jake (Jonah) but they never asked. The insurrections being more frequent, and the scuttling of water etc , the Captain decided to resign the race, and off load our mutineers'. Much to my, Jane's (not a girlfriend but business partner) protesting in favor of sailing the course. 'such an evil thing to do, I know!'
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SMACKED IN THE HEAD DADDY, What are you about. Deserve sanctity? He was the reason all had a chance to 'live the adventure'.
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SMACK IN THE HEAD DADDY!! YES in your pc world all skippers should have the temperament of Cruise Directors. And crews should not be expected to do anything uncomfortable, the Skipper should be grateful for their ungrateful company only. Jane
Okay, Jane, admit it. You think I'm hot. It's okay. I get that a lot.

As for your posts...

1. You seem to say you have no proof they were "scuttling" water - yet you take punitive action against them because you were convinced of this strange FCC plot. Did you see them scuttling water? If not, you might have been seriously overreacting - which would be in line with their complaints that you guys were seriously overreacting.

2. thefacts....The fact that Jake asked Harry to top off the tanks before leaving the dock, and the fact that Harry did not makes your argument that they didn't ask about how full the tanks were, or check them themselves, a bit weak. The water issue, and/or the communication thereof was on you and Harry. You guys blew it.

3. Harry was the skipper. Being a skipper means a lot more than just being an owner giving people a nice opportunity to "live the adventure" or even a nice cruise director. Think Stubing instead of Julie. In my opinion, the way this whole thing turned out points first and foremost to Harry's poor skippering (and potentially your poor advisement in and co-management of the situation). Bad decisions before and during the race. Remember, sanctity is a participle, not a dangling adjective.

As for the rest, I can't wait for SalNichols to show up and support you and Harry. That will be fun.

Sal?

(PS - Sal said you guys had 18 days of water. You say 25. You really shouldn't disagree with Sal. Remember...sanctity.)
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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

After reading this entire thing I am fairly sure I would have thrown everyone else over the rail and told God they died.
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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

thefacts, Jane, whomever:

Please stick with the facts of the race as you see them. The moderators thought this thread would be a good learning tool for others. It is not the place for you to insult the forum members.
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thefacts, Jane, whomever:

Please stick with the facts of the race as you see them. The moderators thought this thread would be a good learning tool for others. It is not the place for you to insult the forum members.
Ah, c'mon, I don't mind a little insult here or there. As long as it doesn't get too personal, it's just a bit of spice in the gravy.
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Ah, c'mon, I don't mind a little insult here or there. As long as it doesn't get too personal, it's just a bit of spice in the gravy.
I know you can take care of yourself but the posts read like just the wind up. I don't want the gravy to burn. The moderators are ready for a post full moon break.
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Re: Mutiny at Dawn - Transpac Race 2013

You can actually learn a lot about a person just by counting the number of exclamation marks in their posts.
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