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andrewalexander 07-30-2013 10:45 PM

Technique for Smoothing KiwiGrip
 
Looking for suggestions for those that have applied Kiwi Grip please. From experience, do you have a suggestion to get a somewhat smooth finished surface application. Not thrilled with the "popcorn or perlte" look or more the feel from the loopy goopy rollers. The application is specifically for the cockpit deck.

Thanks in advance for your assistance...Andrew

bristol299bob 07-31-2013 12:24 AM

Re: Technique for Smoothing KiwiGrip
 
I've experimented a bit with it. I found that you can get a smoother finish in a few ways:

- try the textured roller from the paint store. They are less severe than the one from kiwi grip
- make multiple passes. Many passes seem to beak it up a bit and soften the peaks.
- less pressure ... Seems counter intuitive but I found that less pressure softens the peaks as well. Firm pressure seems to accentuate the peaks as the goo is squeezed and stretched by the roller.
- if all else fails, you once dried, you can sand it lightly (or aggressively) to get the effect you prefer.

Do experiment, i used the "A" side of some plywood and taped off areas with differnt effects to evaluate after it dried.

youll find the combination of roller type, pressure and passes that gives you the result you like.

andrewalexander 07-31-2013 02:53 PM

Great feedback ...thank you - I will give those suggestions a go!

SVTatia 07-31-2013 04:42 PM

Re: Technique for Smoothing KiwiGrip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bristol299bob (Post 1066961)
I've experimented a bit with it. I found that you can get a smoother finish in a few ways:

- try the textured roller from the paint store. They are less severe than the one from kiwi grip
- make multiple passes. Many passes seem to beak it up a bit and soften the peaks.
- less pressure ... Seems counter intuitive but I found that less pressure softens the peaks as well. Firm pressure seems to accentuate the peaks as the goo is squeezed and stretched by the roller.
- if all else fails, you once dried, you can sand it lightly (or aggressively) to get the effect you prefer.

Do experiment, i used the "A" side of some plywood and taped off areas with differnt effects to evaluate after it dried.

youll find the combination of roller type, pressure and passes that gives you the result you like.

+1 on the above.

It also depends how much paint you put on. Less paint lower ridges. You use a ladle or something similar to "drop" the paint then spread with a serrated spatula. The groove size of the serrated spatula is the amount of paint you leave after spreading. Try on a separate piece of plywood and use the West system serrated spatula to spread - the only one I could find with two "settings".

smurphny 07-31-2013 05:49 PM

Re: Technique for Smoothing KiwiGrip
 
I did my decks with the supplied "loopy-goopy." After 3 years now, it is still rough enough to take your skin off but there's no way the feet are slipping. Doing it again, I would try to make it a little less rough.

travlineasy 07-31-2013 10:50 PM

Re: Technique for Smoothing KiwiGrip
 
"Some customers prefer application with a serrated (notched) trowel commonly used for applying adhesive for tile setting. 3mm (1/8th inch teeth yield a thin, fine finish, much like sand filled topcoats) while inch teeth yield a thick coating with taller peaks and deeper valleys.

A thin coat will give you a more refined look that is easier to keep clean but offers a shorter wear-life and won’t bridge hairline cracks well. A thicker coat will give
you a more aggressive non-skid with long wear life and great crack-bridging but will be harder to clean.

Practice on cardboard, plywood, or right on your deck to choose a texture that is right for you. Keep in mind that not all surfaces demand the same texture. Cockpit seats, for example may prefer a finer texture than the cockpit floor."

The above information is from Kiwi Grip's web site. I also discovered that you can dilute the paint with up to 10-percent water, which will thin it sufficiently to slow the dry time, and also reduce the size of the peaks and valleys, which is more desirable in areas within the cockpit.

I have to wait for cooler weather before I can finish my decks and cockpit. I have three gallons sitting on the boat waiting for fall to arrive. :)

Good Luck,

Gary :cool:

CorvetteGuy 08-01-2013 07:45 AM

Re: Technique for Smoothing KiwiGrip
 
heard of the high spots being knocked down with sand paper for a less aggressive finish


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