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Re: Why do skippers yell?

Look at post 21 for those of you coming into this thread 5 or so months after it was posted. Post 21 is by the OP, to a question I posed to him back then, as many are also pointing out over the last day since this thread reappeared.........there are two types of yelling........

#1 talking/yelling loudly to be heard above wind, engine noise etc......If spoken as you would normally, but loud, this is ok. Especially if said captain is more or less deaf.......will not name any one I know.............

#2 is what many call screaming.....ie loud voice, but laced with some 4 letter wording or two or three or more! This type of yelling/screaming is what the OP ment when asking the question.

As noted.......on my boat, we are a bit loud, as the captain, ie me, wears hearing aids, can not hear higher pitched sounds. sometimes even the person yelling/talking behind me is not heard! So while it may sound like everyone is yelling per say.....we are talking in a manner so we all hear ea other, expect this etc. Altho we do try to be quite when appropriate as a crew member of Buddy Melges pointed out somewhere in this thread.

We also many times talk/yell through manuvers, so we all release, or tighten things up as appropriate too. again, loud talking, no swearing is allowed unless at yourself!

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Re: Why do skippers yell?

If your not sure whether you have been heard
Shout dont Yell
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Re: Why do skippers yell?

Just because the skipper is a narcissistic psycho doesn't mean the crew shouldn't be hiking harder. Of course, some skippers never realize that the yelling often interferes with the crew getting work done.
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Re: Why do skippers yell?

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Yes this sounds much more palatable, A "shout", as opposed to a yell, yelling sounds rude anxious, unbalanced.......
Whereas the distinguished and dignified "Shout" comes across as much more certain, thot out, comforting and in control,
And the Captain shouted "extra ration of rum for All"
English is not my main language so that's about very fine detail. Mos dictionaries give yell as synonymous of shout. Maybe a yell can put a note of urgency on panic that a shout does not contain...put than shouting is many times associated with anger.

A anyway I can tell you that last summer when I saw a 55 T motorboat coming in reverse at speed straight to my anchored boat I yelled to the motor boat skipper....it served no good (I was rammed anyway) but at least the skipper looked at me and my boat before hitting it!!!

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Re: Why do skippers yell?

Paulo,

From what I can tell, the OP was trying to figure out the "angry" shout/yell vs a "non angry" shout/yell. He seems to have been in the land of mostly "ANGRY" shout/yelling.

Many like myself have pointed out that yelling/shouting in a non angry form may also be appropriate. As noted, what is the definition of said "yelling!" add the angry or non angry from a tone standpoint, and we have the difference's in yelling per say.

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English is not my main language so that's about very fine detail. Mos dictionaries give yell as synonymous of shout. Maybe a yell can put a note of urgency on panic that a shout does not contain...put than shouting is many times associated with anger.

A anyway I can tell you that last summer when I saw a 55 T motorboat coming in reverse at speed straight to my anchored boat I yelled to the motor boat skipper....it served no good (I was rammed anyway) but at least the skipper looked at me and my boat before hitting it!!!

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English might not be your main language , but your command of it , was honest and to the point, when we discussed the other pirate thread, and changed my opinion of the subject, for which i am grateful for your patient response.
With this yelling shouting issue, i think when shouting fails to be heard many of us progress to yelling, then screaming lol as anger or frustration with a situation requiring urgency and action increases the emotion, and when it comes to the guy about to ram your boat, I would add to ....rolleyes..... load cannon-fire! All my best to you Paulo!
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Re: Why do skippers yell?

Maybe I have screamed then When I went to the next boat to ask to a British skipper, a very phlegmatic one, to be my witness, if needed, the first thing he said, even before I open my mouth was: Do you have F... his wife or what?!!!

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Re: Why do skippers yell?

One would wonder, what the distraction was that he was not looking in the same direction his vessel was moving...lol, im a heavy equip operator so if the machine is moving in a direction You are looking in the same direction.
lol im sure it looked intentional ramming to the British sailor!
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Re: Why do skippers yell?

In fact he was a professional skipper.Later he said to me that the controls blocked and he completely lost control of the boat. In fact he hit me very hard one time at almost the middle turned around my boat (always in reverse) and hit me again in a glancing blow at the stern.

I never understood why he did not cut the engine off instead of trying to maneuver the boat using the two engines. I guess it is a motor boat skippers thing NEVER CUT THE ENGINE!

The blow was so hard that the British Skipper could not believe my boat was not holed. It cost me 10 days of holidays and a lot of hardship because even if the skipper assumed that it was all his responsibility the owner of the boat refused to participate to his insurance company.

In fact only 5 months later my insurance company managed to solve the problem with the other company and I believe that the written testimony of that British skipper, a friend now, was fundamental. They are going to pay more than 16 000 USD of boat repair.

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