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DeeB 08-16-2013 08:48 PM

Choosing the Perfect Boat
 
As promised, I am going to ask a lot of questions and here is my first one:

Two people embark on a journey from Marseille to a little island in West Micronesia. One is a very good sailer, a bit of a genius who's been trained very hard by the very best. The other has very little experience but is willing to learn.

They don't want to waste time, so will be stopping as little as possible (four, six times max).

I need you experienced people to suggest the perfect boat for this venture. We're talking a lot of blue water here (we'll get to the itinerary in another thread but first I want to sort out the boat issue).

I'm thinking that since only one of the two is a sailer, it needs to be pretty much a solo affair. Nothing too big but still allowing lots of fresh water on board, although part of the equipment will include desalination unit (I guess?)

Please explain why you suggest a particular boat (reference links very much appreciated) and do not hesitate to add any equipment that you deem necessary.

I know there will be lots of different opinions and maybe even some heated debate. The one to suggest the boat that is chosen for the story gets a dedicated copy of the book, anyone else who offers helpful comments will be included in the acknowledgements ;)

DRFerron 08-16-2013 09:39 PM

Re: Choosing the Perfect Boat
 
DeeB, might I suggest that you put in your signature that you are an author researching a book? Not everyone will have seen your initial post and think you're truly someone looking to start sailing.

manatee 08-16-2013 09:42 PM

Re: Choosing the Perfect Boat
 
I'll play. :)

How deep are their pockets?
How much prep time do they have?
Hiring extra crew possible?
Do they have a deadline for arrival?
Eastabout or Westabout?
Present-day, or some other time period?
Mostly-sailing, mostly-motoring, or about evenly mixed?
What happens to boat when they get to destination?
DO they get to destination, or do they need a *really good* rescue boat/life raft?
Any constraints on health or physical ability?
Purpose of voyage? e.g., on the run from the law, research, 'because it is there', 'just for fun'.

DeeB 08-16-2013 09:43 PM

Re: Choosing the Perfect Boat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRFerron (Post 1075077)
DeeB, might I suggest that you put in your signature that you are an author researching a book? Not everyone will have seen your initial post and think you're truly someone looking to start sailing.

Oh, yes, that's a very good point. It is underneath my user ID but I guess just to make sure so I don't get too much abuse for asking silly questions :)

DRFerron 08-16-2013 09:45 PM

Re: Choosing the Perfect Boat
 
More prominent in the signature. I didn't notice it up there.

DeeB 08-16-2013 10:04 PM

Re: Choosing the Perfect Boat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manatee (Post 1075078)
I'll play. :)

How deep are their pockets?
How much prep time do they have?
Hiring extra crew possible?
Do they have a deadline for arrival?
Eastabout or Westabout?
Present-day, or some other time period?
Mostly-sailing, mostly-motoring, or about evenly mixed?
What happens to boat when they get to destination?
DO they get to destination, or do they need a *really good* rescue boat/life raft?
Any constraints on health or physical ability?
Purpose of voyage? e.g., on the run from the law, research, 'because it is there', 'just for fun'.

Budget is not an issue but I would like to keep it as small as is realistic.
They want to make it as quickly as possible. This is the best answer I can give you without revealling the plot (same comment for some of your other questions).
No extra crew.
Mostly sailing, as little motoring as possible but they have to be able to face the event of doldrums.
At this point I'm thinking westward (through Panama).
Present days.
We need a boat that will allow them to make it without rescue.

What boat would you choose?

manatee 08-16-2013 11:10 PM

Re: Choosing the Perfect Boat
 
IBIS, here: Brokerage

Because: fast, lightweight, built like a tank, 250 gals. of water, tabernacled masts, shallow draft for more safety & range amongst coral reefs, stowage space, and she's a beautiful boat.
(Warning, Dee, I will probably be flamed for promoting a sharpie. Get your Nomex jammies on.)

I mean what follows to be helpful; though it may sound negative, I mean it as constructive criticism. I hope you will accept it as such.

The idea of getting anywhere by boat "as quickly as possible" is an oxymoron. If your protagonists were in a hurry, they would fly. I could, if pressed, contrive some outlandish set of unlikely circumstances that would make sailing the "fastest" way to get from A to B. When I find such artificial contrivances for the sake of drama in my reading or viewing, I lose interest in the story because the author is not playing fair with the reader. The only time I will accept such things is in comedy, if they are played well. That's why I asked the purpose of the voyage - it has to make sense within the context of your characters' story, not just be a peg to hang the story on.

JulieMor 08-17-2013 08:15 AM

Re: Choosing the Perfect Boat
 
If this is for a book, do you want a boat that might be a bit less than what would be considered a perfect bluewater boat? You know, so the characters find themselves in a harrowing situation. Or do you want a boat the readers will walk away thinking is awesome because it held up even when the crew screwed up?

krisscross 08-17-2013 08:21 AM

Re: Choosing the Perfect Boat
 
Perfect boat? That's easy... Morris 36 Justine:
MORRIS 36 JUSTINE sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com

But can you afford it?

Jeff_H 08-17-2013 09:43 AM

Re: Choosing the Perfect Boat
 
The boats that people chose tell you a lot about their personalities.

If you hero is adventurous he might buy an old race boat like a obsolete single-handed distance racer like an Open Class 40 or Open Class 50.
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._id=78616&url=

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._id=77185&url=

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._id=76477&url=

If he wants to carry more 'stuff' he might get an old performance cruiser perhaps something like a Farr 44 or Farr 46.
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1992.../United-States
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1988...56/New-Zealand
http://www.farrdesign.com/092.htm

Then again he might do something more conservative but a little less of a performance boat like one of the 'default' distance cruisers, say a Valiant 40/ 42, Peterson 44/46, Halberg rassey 40/42F/46, Passport 42, or Norseman 447.
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1979.../United-States
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1979.../United-States
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...g_id=1893&url=

If they are smuggling something, those aren't too bad a choice since these are pretty ubiquitous cruisers that don't shout "hey look at me, I am rich and I know it." I can't imagine your character going any slower ou more conservative and still be interesting.

Boats this size allows you to bring a third person aboard for part of the voyage, and carry some surplus weight.

Jeff


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