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Hey, this boat is 3500 lbs dripping wet. I fill my sailbag with sand and use that. Heck up in Canada they just tie to trees. Your mileage may vary.
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Paulo, out of interest what size Spade for your girl and Euros ????
549 euros (23% VAT included)

20Kg but remember that my boat is light (8T for 12.5m)

Yes, it is an expensive anchor, almost the double of the Lewmar Delta but if we consider the price of the boat or just the price of the new sails I bought this year, it is not relevant.

I had already one on the Bavaria 36 ( never failed on me) and I can read the test results and the comparative holding power. Since on my boat I cannot have a anchor with an arch like the Mason or Rocna (gennaker pole) the choice was obvious, at least to me.

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549 euros (23% VAT included)

20Kg but remember that my boat is light (8T for 12.5m)

Yes, it is an expensive anchor, almost the double of the Lewmar Delta but if we consider the price of the boat or just the price of the new sails I bought this year, it is not relevant.

I had already one on the Bavaria 36 ( never failed on me) and I can read the test results and the comparative holding power. Since on my boat I cannot have a anchor with an arch like the Mason or Rocna (gennaker pole) the choice was obvious, at least to me.

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Thanks mate. That makes the Spade for me about three times the cost of a comparable Rocna plus shipping to Australia. We don't have the problem with fitting the Rocna so I'm thinking that if and when we change from Bruce we'll end up going Rocna.
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Re: Delta Anchor won't set.

Some folks shake their head when they see that 30kg bruce hanging of my bow roller as the boat is only 35' but last week we had some 25 to 30 kn winds blowing through here and I have a 50' house boat on my port side and two dinks rafted up to that and that day a 30 some foot pearson on my starboard side. We stayed putt while the 41' morgan next to us was going backwards on a 45 lbs CQR all be is very slowly. I do have 90 foot of chain out in 7' of water at low tide though. Works for me.

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You're way over thinking this. It doesn't matter what side it's sitting on! It's the weight that matters. The shape is just for tradition. Just tie one end of rope off and pitch the anchor over the side. Not rocket science.
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You're way over thinking this. It doesn't matter what side it's sitting on! It's the weight that matters. The shape is just for tradition. Just tie one end of rope off and pitch the anchor over the side. Not rocket science.
You may be kidding, but it isn't funny. Someone new to anchoring may take you seriously and put themselves and others at risk.

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i think we covered the " shot put anchoring " in an earlier thread .... "good" to see that someone took the advice ----- insert sarcastic emotion here ------

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Delta Anchor won't set.

So ater stowing the Delta, I've been using the old Danforth for a week or so now. I can't believe how beautifully it sets and holds. It comes up (after a bit of a struggle sometimes) with great clouds of stuff which seems encouraging.

I've read that one problem can be with a change of wind direction, but I'm just wondering what the other downsides are with this anchor.

They don't look very popular from observations of other boats in this region.

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I've read that one problem can be with a change of wind direction, but I'm just wondering what the other downsides are with this anchor.
Well, that's the big one, of course... Once set, they generally don't handle veering very well, probably more bent shanks on Danforth-type anchors than any other type...

I think they also don't handle a shorter scope as well as some others, like a Bruce or one of the New Gens... In a crowded place like the Med, that might often be an important consideration...
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Re: Delta Anchor won't set.

Danforth and Fortress type anchors depend on shape and technology 100%. They really have no weight factor to help them out. I like the idea of having 40+ pounds down there along with good technology. Whether a new design like a Mantus (probably my next main anchor), a Bruce, or a CQR (main anchor now), I believe the sheer weight factor is important in being able to break into the bottom. A Danforth probably works just as well as the others 90% of the time but it's that one time that it just skips over the bottom, unable to grab, that presents the problem. When this happens and you're gaining backward momentum, the game is lost. I have NEVER had my 45kg CQR fail to set on the first attempt. Reliability is the operative word with anchors.

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