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Re: Delta Anchor won't set.

Smurphny, FWIW, I had trouble getting my 25 lb CQR-style anchor to bite in the Delaware River. Dropped it and quickly deployed 200' of scope (water was 15') so there wasn't any tension on the line. We drifted backward with the current, but kept moving for a while (well beyond where we should have). I finally used the engine to keep the line slack and let the anchor settle and set, and that seemed to do the trick. Once it set, it was fine until the tide changed. When the tide changed, we dragged for a bit (maybe 100') until it bit again and held through the entire tidal swing. Not a lot of wind, but decent current where we were.
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Re: Delta Anchor won't set.

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Smurphny, FWIW, I had trouble getting my 25 lb CQR-style anchor to bite in the Delaware River. Dropped it and quickly deployed 200' of scope (water was 15') so there wasn't any tension on the line. We drifted backward with the current, but kept moving for a while (well beyond where we should have). I finally used the engine to keep the line slack and let the anchor settle and set, and that seemed to do the trick. Once it set, it was fine until the tide changed. When the tide changed, we dragged for a bit (maybe 100') until it bit again and held through the entire tidal swing. Not a lot of wind, but decent current where we were.
What kind of bottom? Also, chain? I use 3/8" chain with the much heavier than spec. CQR. It's no fun hauling up all that weight by hand but it has always set quick and held through all sorts of variable winds and currents in different kinds of bottoms (although I can't remember using it in rocks). It has held well in grass when other boats slipped all around me.
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I do love my Spade, the first one of the latest generation. I don't think you can go wrong with any of the ones from the latest generation though.
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Re: Delta Anchor won't set.

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Smurphny, FWIW, I had trouble getting my 25 lb CQR-style anchor to bite in the Delaware River. Dropped it and quickly deployed 200' of scope (water was 15') so there wasn't any tension on the line.
Well, that could have been a big part of your initial problem, right there... Not the best technique to setting a CQR, that anchor often seems to require quite a bit of 'fishing' to begin to get it to set... As mentioned in another thread somewhere, making a cup of tea, or opening a beer, is often the recommended second step of the process, after a CQR (or most any anchor, for that matter) first hits the bottom...

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We drifted backward with the current, but kept moving for a while (well beyond where we should have). I finally used the engine to keep the line slack and let the anchor settle and set, and that seemed to do the trick. Once it set, it was fine until the tide changed. When the tide changed, we dragged for a bit (maybe 100') until it bit again and held through the entire tidal swing. Not a lot of wind, but decent current where we were.
That experience would definitely have me shopping for a new anchor :-)

After all, unless you happen to somehow be lying broadside to the flow, any current - even if fairly significant - is gonna be one of the most MODEST forces put on your ground tackle... Whatever current you saw that night, it would have been but a fraction of the load created by the windage of your boat in, say, 30 knots of wind... Swinging to a change of the current is certainly a common cause of eventual dragging, but once a boat is lying head to the 'new' direction of the flow, the forces in most cases really aren't very significant...

I know plenty of folks still swear by their CQRs, but in my experience there are far better all-around anchors out there now...
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Re: Delta Anchor won't set.

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What kind of bottom? Also, chain? I use 3/8" chain with the much heavier than spec. CQR. It's no fun hauling up all that weight by hand but it has always set quick and held through all sorts of variable winds and currents in different kinds of bottoms (although I can't remember using it in rocks). It has held well in grass when other boats slipped all around me.
Do you use a chain stopper? It's like a poor man's windlass and it works by allowing the chain to only go through one way until released. Imagine a rope clutch, but for chain. You can also run the rope part of your rode to your mast winches and winch the puppy up until the chain reaches the mast. Usually it's a straight line from the bow roller to the main halyard/jib halyard winch. Depending on how much chain you have before your anchor, it might represent a major portion of your hauling.



I used a Fortress (danforth style) for quite a few months. One of it's negatives is that the chain, or a rock, can jam in the flukes making it unsetable until brought up again.

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