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Re: The Perils of Rafting On

Rafting up is great fun for lunch!!!!!!

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Re: The Perils of Rafting On

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Agree with only rafting where you can share one anchor.
I totally agree with that. It makes no sense to set additional anchors. It only complicates things when it starts to come unglued.

I would think rafting up in a sailboat would be dangerous & only helps support the folks that make their living in the rigging business.
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I totally agree with that. It makes no sense to set additional anchors. It only complicates things when it starts to come unglued.

I would think rafting up in a sailboat would be dangerous & only helps support the folks that make their living in the rigging business.
Yeah, once you've seen shrouds tangled you'll never do it again.

I've seen it happen on flat calm days when it was "safe" to do it, no weather expected or coming.

It's all good until the guy with the new speedboat who doesn't exactly know how to trim it onto a plane, comes flying by pushing a ridiculous wake. By the time anyone realizes what is about to happen, it's way too late for any quick release. Even if the rigs are not lined up, the boat's different reactions and yawing to the wake is often enough to spell disaster for your rig.

It's not worth it, just row on over!

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Re: The Perils of Rafting On

I never raft up - ever.

A wake can come by even in the calmest of conditions and all one needs is a 70ft sport fisher idling past at 5 knots.

No, not for me.
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Re: The Perils of Rafting On

I do raft at anchor:

When conditions are calm
Spreaders are staggered
Boat with largest anchor sets
Only one anchor to prevent fouling.
Lots of fenders mounted at rub rail / toe rail.
Breast lines and springs lines secured and can be released from either vessel

There are times we have to raft at docks as well.
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Re: The Perils of Rafting On

I've rafted up with as many as 17 boats (over 175k pounds) on a single anchor in 10 - 15 kts of wind - overnight.

Every third week for the past ten years or so our YC hosts a raft up somewhere on the Ches Bay, and just about every week end we go. I'm the anchor boat more often than not as I get there first.

This past summer's fun was three anchors, 6 boats - in Galesville during a 40 kt blow.

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Re: The Perils of Rafting On

One thing I learned about the sea quickly - it's unpredictable. But I grew up in Chicago where they say, "If you don't like the weather, just wait ten minutes."

I've done some rafting and I've been asked to remain tied overnight. My thoughts immediately go to the worst case scenario. And then I say no. Whatever the "advantages" of remaining tied up are, the disadvantages overwhelm them. We can always get back together again in the morning, as long as we're still floating.
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Re: The Perils of Rafting On

I've only rafted up once, and I'd think twice about doing it again. Neither of us had ever rafted before. We were in a fairly protected area windwise, and we only anchored one boat. But we noticed right away that there was a good foot difference in freeboard between our boat and the anchor boat. When a powerboat came by, the subsequent rocking overcame the fenders easily--and this was made worse by our higher freeboard and the different rocking rates. Our hulls did one good smack together. We stayed rafted through dinner, and by then a third boat had joined us, which seemed more stable. Still, we anchored separately for the night and slept better for it!
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Re: The Perils of Rafting On

I raft up with my parents on occasion now that they're back into boating. They have a powerboat, and the free board is comparable with ours. No rigging to tangle either. I prefer to anchor near, instead of rafting, but with the baby on board, it is nice to be able to just "hop over to grandma's boat" when we're rafted.

We only ever use one anchor and my theory on that is that that it's easier to untie, won't tangle, and if the wind is strong enough that one anchor won't hold both boats, it's probably time to break anyway.

The issue I've been having lately is how we lay to the wind. With my parent's new powerboat we lay with the wind pushing my bow into their boat. It makes escaping safely difficult....

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Re: The Perils of Rafting On

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Who goes ashore with your boat rafted....foolish

We raft up all the time and if it gets choppy we break up. One anchor with good scope in light wind/current is no issue
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