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Is there one that I should stay away from? Thinking of going to a marina next weekend and look around. They have a lot for sale but no Catalina's.
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Re: Boat brands

Go on every boat you can. Take pictures, take notes, take your significant other. Alway have at least to columns:
What I liked.
What I did not like.

If you are serially considering the baot, stand at the helm, how is the visibility for you (and the sig other)
Lie on the V-berth, is it comfortable?
Sit on the settees, do you bump your head?
Sit in the head, stand up in there.
You will very quickly start getting a feel for what you like and what you don't.

I do not think there are good brands and bad brands. But there will be some that are better or worse for you and what you want to do.

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Re: Boat brands

Bayliner Buccaneers. Unless you're into uglies.
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Re: Boat brands

That's what we will do then.
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Re: Boat brands

A wise man once said ---there is a lid for every pot.
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Re: Boat brands

I agree with Rik - you won't know until you've been aboard a bunch of them. As Algee said, there's something for everyone. Some here absolutely LOVE their Macgregors. Others wouldn't touch them with a 100-foot pole. Some only want "blue water", deep keel boats. Others want something different. Some want tillers, some want wheels.

Fundamentally, there are boats that tend to be of lesser build quality (like some of the late 1980's Hunters), or lesser sailing ability. But in many cases, even a given manufacturer will have some boats that are great, and some that just aren't. Get aboard a lot of boats, figure out what you think will work for you, then come back and ask for feedback on 3, 5, 8, or however many boats you think are interesting. You'll hear the positives and negatives, and then can make an informed decision. But right now, for the most part, it's going to be tough to answer that question.

In the end, you're going to be stuck picking from whatever is available. You might find that the boat in the best condition that's in your budget is a Macgregor, or a Hunter. In that case, if someone told you to avoid them, you'd have crossed that boat off your list and would never have seen it. As Alex_W said in one of your other threads, the real goal is to buy the boat that's in the best condition possible for your budget. So, I wouldn't rule out anything at this point.
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Re: Boat brands

You get what you pay for.

The rip on Bayliner, at least for their poweboats, is that they are not well made. They are what is known as a "Price boat." That is, they give you a lot of extras for the money spent. On the outside they look as good as any other boat. How they look after a couple of years of bouncing around the bay, that's another thing.

If their sailboats suffer from the same marketing/build quality philosophy then staying away from them makes sense.
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Re: Boat brands

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On the outside they look as good as any other boat
*cough* umm you might want to look at few before retracting that statement







Like I said, fine if you're into uglies
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*cough* umm you might want to look at few before retracting that statement

...Like I said, fine if you're into uglies
He was referring to their powerboats, which do look as nice as other boats from the outside.

I know lots of people who bought Bayliner runabouts as their first boats, and most were very happy. (All of them were freshwater usage.) They hold up OK if you keep them dry on the trailer, and use them in fresh water. More abusive conditions, or heavy use, and the corners they cut start to show up. But they get a lot of first-time purchasers out on the water for an affordable price.

My Bayliner Trophy is 22 years old and still going strong. It's a good boat for the limited use I have for it.
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Re: Boat brands

Arguably their powerboats are/were significantly better than their sailing boats, perhaps they should have stuck to that market. We call their powerboats yafbeys (YAFB), so they certainly sold plenty.
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