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Yer sure they didn't go to the "poop" deck?
Yes, thats where the high ranking sh!ts went!

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Re: Historical question: toilet on small yacht?

Wilcox Critenden was making marine toilets very much the same as those today, nearly 100 years ago. Repairs could be made with bits of leather and flax packing and they only took a couple of pumps on the 2.5' handle to clear the bowl and lines; very efficient.
Unfortunately, if you build a relatively maintenance free, reliable product, you can't stay in business and they are long gone, though the lucky few who have them know what an excellent marine toilet they are.

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Capta, it almost sounds like you were there when the toilets were in popular use.
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Re: Historical question: toilet on small yacht?

msd's (marine sanitation devices) were not required in the US before the Federal Water Pollution Control Act of 1956, also known as the clean water act.
100 years ago, any on board head (toilet) would be plumbed for direct discharge overboard.
No bucket?
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my uncles no 110 yr old registered national historic treasure sloop designed by clifton crane and built in 1903 had a chemical toilet in the bow only because uncle phil placed it there in the 1950s


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Capta, it almost sounds like you were there when the toilets were in popular use.
Eh? Speak up there, sonny.....
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Historically anything goes (went) but nowadays, it is nearly as easy. Pee over the side, or use a urine separator. The #1 goes over the side and the #2 goes in the composting head (bucket) with sawdust, cat litter etc. to dry and for later disposal and composting. Simple, cheap, clean and green. Buy a system for $750 or build your own easily for $50.
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Historically anything goes (went) but nowadays, it is nearly as easy. Pee over the side, or use a urine separator. The #1 goes over the side and the #2 goes in the composting head (bucket) with sawdust, cat litter etc. to dry and for later disposal and composting. Simple, cheap, clean and green. Buy a system for $750 or build your own easily for $50.
Obviously you are not a sailor who must use a head in anything but the marina, anchorage or flat water.
I'd like to see you try to keep the liquids separate from the solids at sea, beating or close reaching in 15 to 25 knots on a 10 day passage to the islands from the right coast.
There's a very, very good reason why only a few have composting toilets on their boats, and those are more often than not boats with one marine toilet for when they are actually underway and a composting one when they are not. I'd like nothing better than thumbing my nose at the CG when they come a-checking, but no way I'm going to have one of those things in my boat.
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............... composting toilets ............., but no way I'm going to have one of those things in my boat.
Sure you could, you just have to figure out where to store all those bales of peat moss? .... deck cargo covered with Sunbrella 'cozies'?
The plastic wrapping of shredded 'brownish' agricultural product ... would make you quite 'popular' with the DEA in the Miami area. ;-)
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Obviously you are not a sailor who must use a head in anything but the marina, anchorage or flat water.
I'd like to see you try to keep the liquids separate from the solids at sea, beating or close reaching in 15 to 25 knots on a 10 day passage to the islands from the right coast.
There's a very, very good reason why only a few have composting toilets on their boats, and those are more often than not boats with one marine toilet for when they are actually underway and a composting one when they are not. I'd like nothing better than thumbing my nose at the CG when they come a-checking, but no way I'm going to have one of those things in my boat.
I've got one and have no problem with them mixing, even in heavy shitty conditions. The design of the toilet prevents urine sloshing up in the solids compartment when the trapdoor is closed.

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Sure you could, you just have to figure out where to store all those bales of peat moss? .... deck cargo covered with Sunbrella 'cozies'?
The plastic wrapping of shredded 'brownish' agricultural product ... would make you quite 'popular' with the DEA in the Miami area. ;-)
Use coconut coir. Way more environmentally friendly and the bricks are compressed and take up very little room

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