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Re: Erie Canal Sinking Sept 2013

What a bummer. It's a good idea to pay close attention to staying in the channel when in the NYS Canals. Sometimes, on the still water of the canals, it looks tempting to pull over to the side at an old pier or dock or up alongside a bridge abutment. This is a good example of why to avoid doing so. There's no telling what kind of construction debris is hiding just under the surface. Even the floating docks installed by some of the towns are iffy. There are good bulkheads to tie up at most of the locks.

On a broader view of the issue of hitting old crap alongside docks, I have seen things that could easily sink a boat in many places. Unless an area is regularly used for deeper draft boats like sailboats, it's a good idea to just stay away.

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Doesn't the bridge owner, local/state govt, bear responsibility for this? Being negligent could get me in trouble, why not them? If a govt Dept of Transportation is responsible for building a bridge, they are also responsible for maintaining it and not creating a hazard. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Re: Erie Canal Sinking Sept 2013

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Doesn't the bridge owner, local/state govt, bear responsibility for this? Being negligent could get me in trouble, why not them? If a govt Dept of Transportation is responsible for building a bridge, they are also responsible for maintaining it and not creating a hazard. Just my 2 cents worth.
In a word, No...

Sorry, but any captain who passes within 4 feet of a bridge abutment on the Erie Canal is asking for trouble (the cite says he actually glanced off the abutment) There are a handful of bridges where the horizontal clearance between bridge supports might be minimal (a RR bridge near Schenectady comes to mind), but there is no need to ever come that close to a structure on the canal, even in the narrower sections west of Lyons...

To assert that the NYS Thruway Authority is "responsible" for this, would be akin to saying that the Army Corps of Engineers is responsible for a boat that happened to hit one of these stumps along the edge of the Alligator-Pungo Canal...


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If the state built the bridge, they may have sovereign immunity.

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Re: Erie Canal Sinking Sept 2013

I worked for NYS for many years as a professional ski patrolman. Folks would occasionally sue the state because they slipped on ice or something equally ludicrous. Imagine...ice at a ski area! Well, no one ever successfully sued NYS. Truism: If you ski there will be ice, roots, trees. If you sail there will be shoals, buoys, submerged objects.

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