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Where is my rudder?

Hi All,

All my sailing up until 2 weeks ago was done aboard boats with tillers. The Allmand has a wheel. I'm seeing all kinds of gismos for rudder position, gauges, electronics etc.. The PO had colored electrical tape around the wheel (it's a fairly good sized destroyer wheel), it made no sense to me, so I took it off and left one marker for center (on top). I don't know that I'll need some sort of indicator, but never had a thought concerning rudder position with the tiller. It couldn't hurt and I know it would help the wife.

What recomendations on this topic do you have for me. Thanks.

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Re: Where is my rudder?

I installed a rudder angle gauge on the dash.It was a necessary feature for the inexperienced helmsperson in the center cockpit. Really big help in close maneuver under power.Boat's pretty heavy and a timely shot of fore or reverse is the ticket. I wouldn't be without it now.( It came as part of my Wagner auto pilot)
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Where is my rudder?

Don't worry about any of the gizmos. Just sail the boat.

The tape shows roughly how far off center your rudder is, anything off top dead center means that you're sailing with the brakes on. So when the sails are trimmed properly, your tape will be centered. BTW, that's hard so don't sweat it, it's only a goal for now.

Just get used to the boat and re-ask the question in a year or so. ENJOY.
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Re: Where is my rudder?

I switched to a wheel three years ago and rely solely on some tape on the wheel indicating that the rudder is centred. Have had no issues and can always tell by the "feel" of the wheel and the location of the tape, what is going on. The only issue is to make sure that the rudder is centred by doing some full revolutions of the wheel at the dock BEFORE leaving the slip. Don't ask me how I learned that.
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Re: Where is my rudder?

Another use for the center mark is that as your boat becomes overpowered (too much sail up), the weather helm will increase. If you are under auto pilot and notice the wheel is over at an angle that produces a rudder angle larger than say 5 degrees then you know it is time to reef... or if you are heeled over so far your cockpit is becoming a swimming pool
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Where is my rudder?

To dispel the wheel vs tiller "feel" myth, it's one if the last indicators as to what the boat is doing, preceded by hearing, feel of the wind on the helmsman's face, loading on the sails, and boat heel. A good helmsman will compensate for a gust, lift, or header long before anything can be felt on the rudder (wheel or tiller). Don't wait to feel it on the rudder before compensating. Bu then it's too late.
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Re: Where is my rudder?

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Another use for the center mark is that as your boat becomes overpowered (too much sail up), the weather helm will increase. If you are under auto pilot and notice the wheel is over at an angle that produces a rudder angle larger than say 5 degrees then you know it is time to reef... or if you are heeled over so far your cockpit is becoming a swimming pool
First, it would be time to re-trim appropriately for the wind velocity and point of sail. When the main is ragging much of the time, then it's time to reef.
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