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Am I reading this right, there is a minimum $800 toll for boats under 50 feet?
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panama canal is not cheap. it is the base price of i think 800 usd for under 50 ft plus handlers plus advisor plus food for same and lines and fenders....plus breakdowns and such....and the 2 day fee for slow boats....


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Well that is just dandy. Another thing on the list I will probably never do.

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Compare to the time and money to go AROUND South America and it isn't that bad plus way warmer than Cape Horn.
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panama canal is not cheap. it is the base price of i think 800 usd for under 50 ft plus handlers plus advisor plus food for same and lines and fenders....plus breakdowns and such....and the 2 day fee for slow boats....
The $800 includes the advisor fee. From the Atlantic side at least, the standard is a two day transit. They leave you tied to a giant mooring in Gatun Lake. You need the lines, fenders, and handlers but usually can organize and share among other cruisers. You also need to pay a deposit ($700?) in case you break their canal. Takes about three weeks to get this back. Overall it is not that big a deal.

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Sailing from California to Florida via the Panama Canal

Lots of advice from people who don't know the boat and haven't made the trip or a similar one. Bravado is no substitute for preparation and seaworthiness. A very tired, very old boat with an outboard is no way for an inexperienced sailor to start a long voyage. People have survived rowing the Atlantic. Sometimes they get lucky. It doesn't make them smart.
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Lots of advice from people who don't know the boat and haven't made the trip or a similar one. Bravado is no substitute for preparation and seaworthiness. A very tired, very old boat with an outboard is no way for an inexperienced sailor to start a long voyage. People have survived rowing the Atlantic. Sometimes they get lucky. It doesn't make them smart.
one need not have done this trip in that exact boat to know if it can be done. i am still doing that very trip in a slightly larger boat, yes, but i do meet souls doing it in islander 26-30. catalina 27-30, columbia 26 mII with outboard, cal 28-34, ericson 26, ericson 27, and other smaller boats. they are digging the ride and having the times of their lives.
for the most part, south of point conception when weather permits, the seas behave fairly well. yes they still can be large, but the southerly swells are gentle with a normal timing of 11-15 seconds, depending. i have counted 21 seconds occasionally on good days in south west mexico, south of lazaro cardenas. normal swell in winter months is 1-2 meters with timing approx 15-21 seconds. niiiice n smooth. a baby can swim it, if the crocs dont eat it.
i drift a lot on `pacific ocean. it is nice to be able to just drift and see the sealife and shipping when there is some, and other stuff going on about the ocean.
yes a small lil islander sailboat with a mebbe reliable engine can do the trip. it has been done in lesser boats.
he prolly wont die. if he knows how to sail. if he doesnt, he will soon know a lot about sailing.
what i find interesting is the souls who do not know the pacific ocean who post as if they sailed it


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Re: Sailing from California to Florida via the Panama Canal

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I have not seen any one bring it up yet. The big challenge to your idea is crossing the Gulf of Tehuantepec. It's advisable for small boats (our size) to take it, "one foot on the beach". That is close to shore. Make sure to cross ONLY during good weather as advised by the marina area you start the crossing from. It's a long trip of many days, but the water is shallow and with the predominate winds you might be able to anchor some nights (OPEN WATER / road stead ANCHORING) for a bit of rest.

But I also have to say, it would most likely cost less to ship the boat than to prep it for an adventure like that.

Good luck on what ever decision you go with.

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The overland distance is about 2700 miles. If you were to walk, you could get there in about 135 days and use the time and money you'd save to buy a new boat when you arrive. If you leave tomorrow, you'd get to Miami in time for the Presidents Day sheet and towel sales
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