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Nav light question

Been getting into night sailing lately. My light set up is navigation lights on one panel switch that turns on lower red/green plus stern white PLUS white light half way up mast pointing forward. This white light hits my jib and makes me very visible but some have told me that should only be used when under power. In order to do that I would need to add a switch. Also I have red/green/white masthead light on a second switch. I turn them all on at night. Guys tell me I look like a Christmas tree. But in a busy commercial harbor like Charleston that sounds like a good thing. :-) so what lights do you think I should be running under sail keeping in mind those massive container, navy, and CT vessels that like to move around at night? And how about that white one half way up mast? Am I ok to run it under sail? Thanks.
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Re: Nav light question

When sailing just use the tricolor at the masthead.
When motoring using the steaming light pointing forward.

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Re: Nav light question

Yes.. since they're wired separately, in your case the lower set under power (with forward white 'steaming light'), the masthead tricolour under sail...

It's pretty much up to you to avoid the shipping... how much you're lit up won't make a difference there.
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Re: Nav light question

I agree with Faster and Chuckles that currently your options are limited to sailing with the tri-color and then turning that off and using the deck/light, steaming light combo when under power. You can't use both.

But I would eventually try to put the steaming light on a seperate switch. That's my set-up.

I think the tri-color is good to have at sea and probably with the large shipping you contend with, but smaller recreational power boats might be less inclined to look 50 feet in the air to see your nav lights. Just a thought.
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Re: Nav light question

Thanks folks... Sounds like consensus. I will operate masthead when sailing and lowers under power. But ultimately I think the full answer is steaming light on separate switch...
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Re: Nav light question

One advantage to the masthead tri-color is that when sailing the deck level lights can cause enough glare to be distracting and and damage your night vision.
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Re: Nav light question

My steaming light is out of commission, is it appropriate to substitute the anchor light along with the running lights.
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Re: Nav light question

steaming lights only light the front while anchor lights are all around
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Re: Nav light question

Like Chuckles says, lighting the wrong lights misrepresents what you are doing. Using the anchor light MEANS that you are anchored. Using the steaming light MEANS that you are under power. Maneuvering at night is dangerous enough without essentially lying to others around you that have to act according to the lights that you are showing. Your improper lights may cause them to steer the wrong way and result in a nasty accident. Fix your circuits or stay home after sundown.
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Re: Nav light question

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My steaming light is out of commission, is it appropriate to substitute the anchor light along with the running lights.
No.

From the stern someone would see two white lights. That could be mistaken for a 50 m vessel with the sidelights below the horizon.
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