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Re: I Think I Found The Right Boat

/paranoia-on
I think the OP is really the guy selling the boat and he is trying a clever marketing trick.
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Re: I Think I Found The Right Boat

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/paranoia-on
I think the OP is really the guy selling the boat and he is trying a clever marketing trick.
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I think the OP is really the guy selling the boat and he is trying a clever marketing trick.
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"The Market for Sailboats in Arizona"
"Shopping for a Sailboat in Arizona"
Some sort of logic error inherent in both that makes them seem as ironic as " Let's go to Iowa for some fresh seafood".
BTW I used to often remind a friend that just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean very one WASN'T really out to get you.
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Re: I Think I Found The Right Boat

You guys are funny...

We have some very large lakes put here, you can sail for 2 hrs in one direction on lake Pleasant before having to tack. One marina there has over 100 sailboats...all the way up to a 36' Hunter and many of 30' Catalina's. The largest fleet is the 22' Catalina's.

I should have taken a picture, there were about 3 dozen out on the lake on Saturday racing on a triangle shaped course...

Plus, owning a Sailboat out here is like a luxury form of camping, lol....
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Re: I Think I Found The Right Boat

Pull the trigger on the 27. The relatively new diesel will help that boat hold its value for quite some time, and I'm sure on a smallish lake there can't be many hours on it.
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Re: I Think I Found The Right Boat

I think I will, I'm looking into insurance today and moving it from one marina to another. He's in the nicest marina at the lake for $475 a month, I can go across the lake to the city marina for $240. Plus the full service chandlery is located there...

The diesel has just under 500 hrs on it since 2005, about 60 hrs a year...
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I think I will, I'm looking into insurance today and moving it from one marina to another. He's in the nicest marina at the lake for $475 a month, I can go across the lake to the city marina for $240. Plus the full service chandlery is located there...

The diesel has just under 500 hrs on it since 2005, about 60 hrs a year...
That's great news! You should still make your purchase contingent on a successful survey to be sure there are no major problems. This should include a haulout to look for blistering, "Catalina smile," keel bolt erosion, and other underwater issues. Also be sure to find out that the keel stub is not embedded with wood (subject to rot) and if it was, that it has been hollowed out and replaced with epoxy. These are all known issues with certain vintage Catalinas. (I don't recall you posting what year this boat is.)
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Re: I Think I Found The Right Boat

yeah, that's the one problem I'm running into........ a survey.

I've done some research and their are a couple of mobile mechanics in town that will look at boats and but neither are certified surveyors and they were both pretty honest and said sailboats really were not their thing they were more into engines and mechanics and did mostly powered cruisers, ski boats and PWC. One even said He could give no opinion on sails, running or standing rigging but he'd look at the desiel.

The shop at this lake charges like $500 for a haul out and they do not do pre-purchase inspections because as he put it "I've made enemies and it's done more harm than good to my business when I've brought up issues that stopped a sale". he'll haul it out and you have to look at it and if you find something wrong he'll quote a price to fix it.

The owner of this 27' does have a receipt for his bottom job done in 2008 done at this shop. Although a lot could happen in 5 years, it has two coats of barrier coat and two coat of anti-fouling or at least the receipt claims that.

I know this is a large problem....
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Re: I Think I Found The Right Boat

For what it's worth--

We bought our 1981 26' Seafarer with an inboard diesel last August for $6,300 and did not have a survey. (Though it was on the hard at the time of purchase.) You can educate yourself quite a bit on what and how to inspect. Based on what you wrote above, I would do my own inspection over paying and trusting someone with doubtful qualifications.
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Re: I Think I Found The Right Boat

I would get a list from Cat 27 owners of common issues with the boat that should be inspected. Check out the Catalina owners groups and you should be able to get the show stoppers and how to recognize them. Then armed with info and appropriate tools, get the boat pulled and go for it. The $500 to see the bottom is worth it and just part of buying a keel boat. I bet all is great especially with a freshwater boat but take a look.

I understand the survey suggestion, but when you get below 10K and on a <30 boat I think the equation gets harder. BUT, know how to make sure the vessel is at least sound (rigging, motor, keel etc) and then...

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