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Re: Boat Capsize

After a bit of surfing I found that there a dozen or so of these boats and on a transAt race they did, every one that competed made the trip in 5 days; that's hauling!
They also sail with a pretty good sized crew (6-8) so if what I can see of this video is correct, there seem to be only 2 aboard when they flipped it. If these are ocean racers, they just couldn't be THAT tender, all supporting the idea that this was an intentional capsize.
These boats are as wide as mine is long!
But wouldn't they be fun to sail? 28+ knots!
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Re: Boat Capsize

Never been turtled but have been knocked down, broached, death rolled and lost some rigs. Bearing off would make it worse. The boat is short crewed they had lots of time to correct assuming the existing crew had any idea what they were doing. Looks staged to me.
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Re: Boat Capsize

Although this is a tri and not a cat, some of the principles are the same.

I was always taught that one of the big differences between multi and mono is how they react to big puffs. Whereas a mono will round up hard, in a cat you want to bear off hard. Most of us have experienced big round ups and know the force on the boat and rig when it happens. You are laying over hard in some of those cases.
Now imagine a multi where one of the ama's is forced up by the gust and think about what happens as the pressure builds in the round up...,.over you go. By bearing off you release that pressure quicker and can save the thrill of looking down from up high.
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Re: Boat Capsize

I don't sail tri's (or bi's), but my instinct would be to blow the main and sail the boat back under the mast. ie, bear off.
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Not my idea of a "pleasure boat". I agree with everyone here, it looks like they could've dumped the main and saved it.
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Re: Boat Capsize

My guess is they were trying to fly a hull for the camera but did not react quickly enough or at all when the hull got a little too high. They need Dean Barker at the helm next time.
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Re: Boat Capsize

Any chance the rotor wash from the helicopter contributed to the capsize?
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Re: Boat Capsize

There is another video of one of them doing the same thing during one of the in port races between ocean legs

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Re: Boat Capsize

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That looked like they had lots of time to blow the mainsheet or bear off before they got too high - I wonder why they didn't.
They were being filmed and they thought that they could get away with a radical maneuver flying high on an amas? When they found out that it was to much it was already too late.

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They were being filmed and they thought that they could get away with a radical maneuver flying high on an amas? When they found out that it was to much it was already too late.

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