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Sign of the times, in their current "Safety at Sea" issue, there's an article titled "The Freighter's Here! Now What?"
Oh geez, maybe Doug Sabbag will pipe in on this one....
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Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

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so many people sail a few miles, then fly away for a period of time, returning to do a little more sailing using this pattern until they have "sail around the world". To me this dosent qualify as a circumnavigation of the globe. If a guy stocks up on his beer then takes off stopping here and there to rest and make repairs and eventually returns to his starting point that would be a circumnavigation
I think you need to learn more about what is involved before making such judgements. To take one big example there is the whole question of tropical storm seasons in various parts of the world. Unless you want to do something like the schedule of the World ARC (15 months), which requires a fast boat and limiting what you can see, you are going to have to sit out a cyclone season somewhere like New Zealand and Australia. Six months off means you can visit that country and get in a visit home without affecting the purity of a circumnavigation.

BTW, it is not sailing a few miles. We will have done more than 35,000 miles when we get back to Grenada where we will cross our track. At 5 knots that is 7,000 hours sailing.

Back home on Lake Ontario after something over 36,000 nm circumnavigator. Not surprisingly there is a lot of stuff I want to get done on Ainia both cosmetically and functionally. Getting an early start so it will be ready to go for next summer (Lake Superior?).
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Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

A general thought from an ol' man-
You will never know what you can or can not do until you try, and maybe try again and again. If you never try then you can Never Know!
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Yeah, I'm not sure about that.

A full sail around the world should take IMO at least three years. I know that I "raced" across the Pacific to get my boat home and it took me nearly three months. To do that same trip quietly would have taken me at least 8 to 10 months (weather aside). And that's only a third of a full world trip. There is still an awful lot to see.

But not many folks want to be away from "home" for three years so a few trips back an forth at 600kn instead of 6kn is necessary. AFAIAC if you cross three oceans and visit 5 continents you have completed a circumnavigation. If that takes a few years, well, isn't that the essence of cruising?
I understand. Thanks for the input having done the trip yourself. I now will be less criticle than I was. However, lets look at the any race like the transpac. So if what your saying transpac racer could stop and go home to play with the family, etc. then when he's rested go back to the race. Of course only the time his vessel was under way would be clocked as official time. Granted if someone takes 10 years to go round the world he has in fact done so but he is not in the same league as the guy that takes off and doesn't stop till he reaches home port. I think of a circumnavigation as a single trip not a 10 year or more series of vacations. Would both circumnavigators get the same credit in my book? nope, don't think so. No more than the transpac racer that decided to stop for a break or have a beer would.
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Granted if someone takes 10 years to go round the world he has in fact done so but he is not in the same league as the guy that takes off and doesn't stop till he reaches home port. I think of a circumnavigation as a single trip not a 10 year or more series of vacations. Would both circumnavigators get the same credit in my book? nope, don't think so.
Sorry, dude, but you don't have a freakin' clue...

So, these folks are "not in the same league" as, say, the Bumfuzzles, huh? LMFAO!





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Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

A circumnavigation is sailing around the world - period. Doing it non-stop or doing it in stages makes no difference.
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I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

go for it, learn along the way, prepare yourself in what really matters, navigation and emergency situations...last thing is talk less and do more...

people do it all the time...some dont even use the INTERNET!

there will always be more voices against than for when you ask questions like can I climb mt. everest? reason being most people dont do stuff like this...

imagine what a sad world it would be if eveybody sailed around the world? and that was more common than working from 9 to 5? that would be horrific!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

do it...I did partially over my early 20s...started when I was 18 on an old wooden leaking ketch...I still have to cross the atlantic, and some of the asian pacific, but I did it and Im still young at 32, jejejeje

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Sorry, dude, but you don't have a freakin' clue...

So, these folks are "not in the same league" as, say, the Bumfuzzles, huh? LMFAO!





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I don't, that's why I am reading these forums and listening to what those that have made trips like this have to say.. But all I am saying is the guy that just goes and keeps going only stopping for provisions, repairs, emergencies is definitely in a different category from someone that takes a series of cruises over a period of several years to complete the journey.

In your case judging from your map above it looks like you traveled enough miles to have made 2 circum's or more. Thanks for posting your map. I am a bit envious of your accomplisment and impressed.

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In your case judging from your map above it looks like you traveled enough miles to have made 2 circum's or more. Thanks for posting your map. I am a bit envious of your accomplisment and impressed.
Well, don't be - 'cause that's not me :-)

It's these guys: index
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Well, don't be - 'cause that's not me :-)

It's these guys: index
opps, I just assumed from the way you were talki9g that it was you. Thanks for the link
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