Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before - Page 5 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest > General Discussion (sailing related)
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree20Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #41  
Old 10-21-2013
caberg's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 548
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Rep Power: 2
caberg is on a distinguished road
Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonEisberg View Post
Sign of the times, in their current "Safety at Sea" issue, there's an article titled "The Freighter's Here! Now What?"
Oh geez, maybe Doug Sabbag will pipe in on this one....
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #42  
Old 10-21-2013
Bristol 45.5 - AiniA
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,986
Thanks: 3
Thanked 45 Times in 40 Posts
Rep Power: 9
killarney_sailor is on a distinguished road
Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

Quote:
Originally Posted by bfloyd4445 View Post
so many people sail a few miles, then fly away for a period of time, returning to do a little more sailing using this pattern until they have "sail around the world". To me this dosent qualify as a circumnavigation of the globe. If a guy stocks up on his beer then takes off stopping here and there to rest and make repairs and eventually returns to his starting point that would be a circumnavigation
I think you need to learn more about what is involved before making such judgements. To take one big example there is the whole question of tropical storm seasons in various parts of the world. Unless you want to do something like the schedule of the World ARC (15 months), which requires a fast boat and limiting what you can see, you are going to have to sit out a cyclone season somewhere like New Zealand and Australia. Six months off means you can visit that country and get in a visit home without affecting the purity of a circumnavigation.

BTW, it is not sailing a few miles. We will have done more than 35,000 miles when we get back to Grenada where we will cross our track. At 5 knots that is 7,000 hours sailing.
__________________
Finished the circumnavigation in early February in Grenada. Have to work on a book project for the next several months so the boat will be waiting for next year.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #43  
Old 10-21-2013
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Eufaula, Al (lower SE cnr on Ga line)
Posts: 19
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post
Rep Power: 0
The Ol Man is on a distinguished road
Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

A general thought from an ol' man-
You will never know what you can or can not do until you try, and maybe try again and again. If you never try then you can Never Know!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #44  
Old 10-21-2013
bfloyd4445's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 312
Thanks: 7
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 1
bfloyd4445 is on a distinguished road
Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omatako View Post
Yeah, I'm not sure about that.

A full sail around the world should take IMO at least three years. I know that I "raced" across the Pacific to get my boat home and it took me nearly three months. To do that same trip quietly would have taken me at least 8 to 10 months (weather aside). And that's only a third of a full world trip. There is still an awful lot to see.

But not many folks want to be away from "home" for three years so a few trips back an forth at 600kn instead of 6kn is necessary. AFAIAC if you cross three oceans and visit 5 continents you have completed a circumnavigation. If that takes a few years, well, isn't that the essence of cruising?
I understand. Thanks for the input having done the trip yourself. I now will be less criticle than I was. However, lets look at the any race like the transpac. So if what your saying transpac racer could stop and go home to play with the family, etc. then when he's rested go back to the race. Of course only the time his vessel was under way would be clocked as official time. Granted if someone takes 10 years to go round the world he has in fact done so but he is not in the same league as the guy that takes off and doesn't stop till he reaches home port. I think of a circumnavigation as a single trip not a 10 year or more series of vacations. Would both circumnavigators get the same credit in my book? nope, don't think so. No more than the transpac racer that decided to stop for a break or have a beer would.
Food for thought
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #45  
Old 10-21-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,380
Thanks: 0
Thanked 112 Times in 100 Posts
Rep Power: 4
JonEisberg will become famous soon enough
Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

Quote:
Originally Posted by bfloyd4445 View Post
Granted if someone takes 10 years to go round the world he has in fact done so but he is not in the same league as the guy that takes off and doesn't stop till he reaches home port. I think of a circumnavigation as a single trip not a 10 year or more series of vacations. Would both circumnavigators get the same credit in my book? nope, don't think so.
Sorry, dude, but you don't have a freakin' clue...

So, these folks are "not in the same league" as, say, the Bumfuzzles, huh? LMFAO!





Tom & Vicky Jackson on SUNSTONE: index

Last edited by JonEisberg; 10-21-2013 at 10:24 PM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #46  
Old 10-21-2013
SloopJonB's Avatar
Senior Moment Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: West Vancouver B.C.
Posts: 10,600
Thanks: 56
Thanked 48 Times in 45 Posts
Rep Power: 4
SloopJonB will become famous soon enough
Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

A circumnavigation is sailing around the world - period. Doing it non-stop or doing it in stages makes no difference.
Omatako and christian.hess like this.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #47  
Old 10-22-2013
new dad!
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: el salvador
Posts: 3,024
Thanks: 71
Thanked 114 Times in 110 Posts
Rep Power: 1
christian.hess is on a distinguished road
Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

go for it, learn along the way, prepare yourself in what really matters, navigation and emergency situations...last thing is talk less and do more...

people do it all the time...some dont even use the INTERNET!

there will always be more voices against than for when you ask questions like can I climb mt. everest? reason being most people dont do stuff like this...

imagine what a sad world it would be if eveybody sailed around the world? and that was more common than working from 9 to 5? that would be horrific!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

do it...I did partially over my early 20s...started when I was 18 on an old wooden leaking ketch...I still have to cross the atlantic, and some of the asian pacific, but I did it and Im still young at 32, jejejeje

peace
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #48  
Old 10-22-2013
bfloyd4445's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 312
Thanks: 7
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 1
bfloyd4445 is on a distinguished road
Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonEisberg View Post
Sorry, dude, but you don't have a freakin' clue...

So, these folks are "not in the same league" as, say, the Bumfuzzles, huh? LMFAO!





Tom & Vicky Jackson on SUNSTONE: index
I don't, that's why I am reading these forums and listening to what those that have made trips like this have to say.. But all I am saying is the guy that just goes and keeps going only stopping for provisions, repairs, emergencies is definitely in a different category from someone that takes a series of cruises over a period of several years to complete the journey.

In your case judging from your map above it looks like you traveled enough miles to have made 2 circum's or more. Thanks for posting your map. I am a bit envious of your accomplisment and impressed.

Last edited by bfloyd4445; 10-22-2013 at 07:11 PM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #49  
Old 10-22-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,380
Thanks: 0
Thanked 112 Times in 100 Posts
Rep Power: 4
JonEisberg will become famous soon enough
Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

Quote:
Originally Posted by bfloyd4445 View Post




In your case judging from your map above it looks like you traveled enough miles to have made 2 circum's or more. Thanks for posting your map. I am a bit envious of your accomplisment and impressed.
Well, don't be - 'cause that's not me :-)

It's these guys: index
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #50  
Old 10-23-2013
bfloyd4445's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 312
Thanks: 7
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 1
bfloyd4445 is on a distinguished road
Re: Circumnavigating the world with NO prior sailing experience ever before

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonEisberg View Post
Well, don't be - 'cause that's not me :-)

It's these guys: index
opps, I just assumed from the way you were talki9g that it was you. Thanks for the link
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New production boat interior finishing and repair prior to comissioning turban10 Boat Review and Purchase Forum 2 09-10-2012 11:17 AM
‚??Tangerine‚?? by Jonathan Aller - Prior Lake American NewsReader News Feeds 0 11-13-2011 09:00 AM
I need a bit of real world info on real world experience particlepood Boat Review and Purchase Forum 3 06-29-2008 06:03 AM
Recommended tool for opening up cracks prior to filling and fairing GBurton Gear & Maintenance 15 11-17-2007 01:45 PM
Cleaning interior teak prior to painting GBurton Gear & Maintenance 0 11-09-2007 11:49 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:34 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012