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Re: We Killed the Pacific Ocean

I remember reading an article by Thor Heyerdahl, about his being shocked at how much more pollution he found in the ocean in 1969 and 1970 voyage on Ra and RaII , than he found in 1947 on Kon-Tiki. Even taking into account the fact that it was different bodies of water, he found a lot more pollution in the second trip.
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A hundred years after man has died off, the oceans will be fine.
Willing to wait that long?
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Re: We Killed the Pacific Ocean

Jeremy Jackson nails it in the TED talk about overfishing.
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Willing to wait that long?
No, but I'll bet the ocean is.
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Re: We Killed the Pacific Ocean

Sure G9 the universe will survive without makind too but that isn't relevant or helpful to our conversation about what "we" do in our lifetime and what we experience in our lifetimes with pollution...sea life and coral reefs....etc...

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that video is unbelievable. The ending where he says we must change ourselves to imagine a world that isn't about greed and our frantic pursuit of "growth" is very powerful. In many small ways I know I have done that and I think its epitomized by many of the sailors who read and post here. They do not seem greedy, and they surely love the ocean.

If I could just imagine for a moment a partial solution, I could see fleets of underwater drones with cameras and sensors monitoring the ocean floor and the coral reefs and reporting back continuous information, combined with AIS, GPS and global weather data to make a tool for scientists, fisherman and politicians. A plan could be developed to manage, restore and preserve fish populations and habitat.
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if the pacific is so dead, why , then, splain me, is it that there are so many lovely fishies answering the lure, and so many different species--has been wonderful eating here......
Of course the Pacific isn't dead. Though I know folks mean well, exaggerations like that appeal to people who are already sympathetic to the message but are often completely dismissed by anyone who is skeptical.

If the goal is to motivate people to change on a large scale, it's best to stick to facts and skip the hyperbole.
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Sure G9 the universe will survive without makind too but that isn't relevant or helpful to our conversation about what "we" do in our lifetime and what we experience in our lifetimes with pollution...sea life and coral reefs....etc...

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that video is unbelievable. The ending where he says we must change ourselves to imagine a world that isn't about greed and our frantic pursuit of "growth" is very powerful. In many small ways I know I have done that and I think its epitomized by many of the sailors who read and post here. They do not seem greedy, and they surely love the ocean.

If I could just imagine for a moment a partial solution, I could see fleets of underwater drones with cameras and sensors monitoring the ocean floor and the coral reefs and reporting back continuous information, combined with AIS, GPS and global weather data to make a tool for scientists, fisherman and politicians. A plan could be developed to manage, restore and preserve fish populations and habitat.
You really think that massive electronic surveillance of the ocean is the answer to this problem?

Good luck with that.

There are about 200 countries operating on this planet and most are contributing to the pollution of the ocean. What's your plan to bring all of them to one mind and to act together?
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Maybe Brent is right.we should be in steel.
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Interesting to contemplate.
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Re: We Killed the Pacific Ocean

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Mark o sea life,
Just because you see a few dolphins off the east coast means nothing. I sail in waters north of Hawaii and have yet to see Japanese floatsum in the water, and I see dolphins and whales at times. That also means nothing. the Pacific as well as all oceans and waterways around the world are being and have been destroyed. Due to population growth and the demand for marine products from a growing and prosperous asian population, the rate of destruction of the oceans and the Pacific in particular has accelerated at a pace not seen before.

The oceans are being destroyed not only by overfishing and destructive fishing, but also by plastics.
Casey,
You are absolutely correct. However, if you get off the beaten track, which cruising affords, then you will still see the Ocean is still rich in sea life...it may not last. so get out here while you can!
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