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You don't have to ride a moped to know it ain't a Electra Glide.
so that's just an assumption? I saw one sailing on youtube and looked them up. that and the vacationer, it's bigger cousin. I thought some of them looked really nice and was wondering how they sailed. I do think their keel is odd, however, because it is deeper at the bow and tapers towards the stern. kind of opposite the usual long keel design.
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by the way, what year electraglide? if it's an AMFer from the bad old days, you'd be better off with the moped. more reliable and leaks less oil.
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hmmm...okay, maybe I have to dumb it down for the Texan, since he "liked" my initial salvo, but apparently dislikes my expansion on the original thesis.
The dirty, unattractive boat that is the initial subject of this post is like a skidmarked crib- it washes off.

A dirty, ugly, free boat is not the same as a POS boat. For example, a pristine, squeaky clean Stevenson Weekender is still a POS. it didn't sail better or become a better equipped boat by virtue of being clean.

Your failure to understand that simple point demonstrates that you may have very little mental space.

enjoy your curry.
Whew - thank you. I get it now.

The whole "wiping your dirty diaper all over your crib" thing was just way too "intellectual" for us Texans. So that's how it is up there. Nice.

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Whew - thank you. I get it now.



[PSST - never explain a joke - no matter how lame it is. Even us Texans know that.]
If you Texans don't admit you don't get the joke, then everyone else doesn't have to explain the joke. alas, you do, so we have to.
This explains the success of both barbecue and chili in Texas- it is low and slow. you can handle nothing more, apparently.

which explains your befuddlement whilst consuming curry.
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so that's just an assumption? I saw one sailing on youtube and looked them up. that and the vacationer, it's bigger cousin. I thought some of them looked really nice and was wondering how they sailed. I do think their keel is odd, however, because it is deeper at the bow and tapers towards the stern. kind of opposite the usual long keel design.
"kind of opposite" is the operative phrase. in any event, it is smaller than your current boat, so a step backward.
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Re: "Free boat" seaworthiness

yeah. they also have a bigger version, the vacationer, and a skilled person could scale up the plans to go bigger. but I was just curious. I won't deny having thought along those lines but I don't have time to completely build a boat, right now. if I were to do one, i'd scale it up. it'd take more material of course. but I think you could build one that was a pretty nice cruiser, had you the time. I think i'd have to look at the keel design. it's balanced with the sail plan, obviously, but I think i'd want a more traditional keel profile and just refigure the sails to get the right balance. figuring that stuff out isn't beyond my means. but there is the time issue.

but, who knows. someday.....they are a pretty little boat. reminds me of a skipjack or a bugeye. very traditional looks. I like that. I have a 9' dinghy with a long shallow keel and a sprit sail in the back of my truck. i'm an old fashioned kind of guy.

heck, you could even do it as a schooner. kind of a vacationer/Bolger light schooner hybred.

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Re: "Free boat" seaworthiness

A stevenson design is like a playboy centerfold as viewed by a virgin- great packaging... but the subject has no experience with which to compare.

Stevensons are great sailboats, in the opinion of those who have never sailed.
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Re: "Free boat" seaworthiness

oh. so they don't have good sailing qualities? the construction method is much like the instant boats. I like the traditional look, but I think if I built a boat, I would lift the lines from my dinghy and use them as the basis of a much larger boat. although I have concerted it to long keel, and made a sprit sail for it, it is a modern performance hull and has great sailing qualities. better with the shallow keel. enlarged to, say, 25 feet, and add enough freeboard to give decent head room inside, it would work out nicely.

but I digress. today is the moment of truth and I should go to sleep. I have to be there in 6 hours.
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Re: "Free boat" seaworthiness

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.......here's some advice from a broke-ass mofo who has been sailing, more or less successfully, for years on an annual budget that would not buy a new mainsail on a Catalina 400.
A new mainsail on a C400 would be a couple thousand or more? The OP is needing time to accumulate $350.

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Grab the most complete free boat you can find and sail it. Make sure the engine runs, it doesn't smell bad, the chainplates aren't ready to pull right out of the hull, and the bilge isn't filling faster than it can be pumped out.
... the sails aren't going to blow out, the rudder is solid and secure, the drive train is true, the prop isn't de-zinced, the deck isn't too wet, the keel bolts or pivot are not rotten, the standing rigging isn't corroded or frayed, the running rigging isn't too worn, etc.

I get your point and have no objection to it. However, there are many things that can throw you a serious curve and then you wish you had spent what money you have on something else.

I would seriously think the soiled crib in your story is a better find by far than the boat in the OP.
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I just noticed the ebay ad has a link for "more pictures." My throat starts to burn just looking at them. And based on the fact that the hatch is magically restored, I'd say these pics were probably BEFORE the boat (apparently) sunk:

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TF.... thanks for posting , but is there any chance you could resize these, they're blowing my screen out? Many thanks.
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