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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

Okawbow,

Dorade is a wonderful ship, and I have absolutely nothing to say but praises for her. But let's look at reality a sec. First she started in the slow boat class, so had a one week head start over the fast boats. This year that happened to be huge, since the wind died for the fast boats, forcing them to sail over 1000 miles further than the slow boat class, who got to carry the Pacific cyclone all the way to Hawaii. Secondly she didn't beat a single modern racer boat for boat.

Dorade has an elapsed time of 293:23:18 (hours:minutes:seconds)versus the slowest elapsed time of division 1 (remember they sailed about 1000 miles more) of 212:29:50. The fast boat did it in an elapsed time of 188:49:51. Almost four days faster despite sailing much further.

See http://www.transpacyc.com/docs/2013r..._standings.pdf for final standings.

See TRANSPAC: Classic Dorade likely to win Overall Title >> Scuttlebutt Sailing News for a conversation about the weather.

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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

It looks like it would be a very wet boat. The high cabin could indicate it was built more for comfort than speed, but she does have less wetted surface than most boats of her vintage.
But having owned a wooden William Hand gaff ketch built in 1909, which I sailed through the South Seas for 5.5 years, captained of one built in 1906 and have crewed on several wooden vessels built before 1900, I would suggest you think quite seriously about investing in an older woody. The art of bringing of a boat like that back and taking care of her is fast disappearing. I recently met a graduate of a prestigious New England wooden boat building school who was apparently taught to put the oakum into the seams after the cotton; 100% wrong!
If you have the skills, money and patience, by all means go for it and you may end up with a vessel no plastic or metal boat can match in sea kindliness and richness.

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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

To me it looks like it would be fast in relative for it's length and weight, but who cares - you're going to look so good sailing it, it won't matter how fast you're going! Also, people are going to want to come along side and take pictures, so it wouldn't be fair if you were going so fast they couldn't catch up!
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Capta, It's not my boat, a guy is restoring it, got it nearly free, and it's nearly rot free... PO thought 5200 would hold the planks on... was sadly mistaken.

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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

Yeah, that boat looks fast just sitting there! Great lines. And let's get real, we are in sailboats so fast is all relative. If you are going to go slow at least look good doing it!
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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

How big of a smile she puts on your face is far more important than an extra half knot of boat speed -- unless you're a racer and then you're not looking at this boat anyway.

How a boat makes you feel is an intangible but it just may be her most important attribute...

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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

She may not be super fast but that's a really pretty hull in my book. She has a tight turn at the bilges for that style of boat. Might give her a bit more stability. I would rather work on a project like this than the ferro 60 in the other thread. At least at the end you would have a cool boat.
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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

It is a pretty boat. The owner definitely "scored" on this one. Hope he doesn't loose interest like so many.

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