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Wood this be a fast boat?

Granted it's a full keel yet it just "looks" fast to me. 26ft. Love the lines.
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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

I like the looks of that boat too. Looks fairly fast to me.
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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

Fast compared to what?

Compared to a modern full out racing boat - there is no comparison
Compared to a modern performance boat - not even in the same ball park.
Compared to a modern performance cruiser - no not really
Compared to a modern full keel cruiser - probably
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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

Looks like it wood be. Lovely boat.
1951? wow, steel looking good after all those years.
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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

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Fast compared to what?

Compared to a modern full out racing boat - there is no comparison
Compared to a modern performance boat - not even in the same ball park.
Compared to a modern performance cruiser - no not really
Compared to a modern full keel cruiser - probably
That's right Greg; old wooden boats could never be fast........

Smile Eighty-year old wooden full keel boat beats new "Interesting Boats" in Transpac

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Dorade, a 1930 wooden 52' full keel S&S design corrected to 1st place in the fleet in the 2013 Transpac: Yacht Scoring - A complete web based regatta administration and yacht scoring program

Read the results and weep, all followers of the "Interesting Sailboats" thread!

On elapsed time, (that is real time) boat for boat, Dorade beat a Jeanneau 44 Sleeper, a Tripp 40 Sansari, and a Beaneateau 47.7 La Sirena !!!

Dorade is:
1. 80 years old;
2. Wooden;
3. a yawl; and,
4. Full/deep keel.

Again, like the "Classic Plastic Smokes the Fleet.." thread ( Cheap Classic Plastic smokes the fleet in 2013 Down the Bay Race ) wherein a 40-year-old Hobie 33 beat the living daylights out of some larger, modern boat show boats, is is just possible that all the advances in sailboat design and technology are merely incremental, and a good old boat can still kick arse in the right conditions?

Let's hear the excuses in support of the boat show boats!

Let's hear from those who say deep/full keel boats are slow!

Let's hear from those who say new, modern sailboats are faster in all respects!

BTW, Dorade, at 52' in length, has a beam of only 10'3", about the same as a modern 30' boat-show sailboat (no sugar scoop transom, aft shower or double berth under the cockpit!).
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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

Fast, as in design of the hull. the keel is quite narrow.. hollow and the ballast keel is on the very bottom, which is very desirable in racing if I'm not mistaken. not saying it's a race boat. the design seems so up to date for an old boat. The swept back design of the fin. the very different looking rudder.
26ft, so it's not big by any means.
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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

In for Bob Perry's take...
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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

That hollow keel is very odd.. but it seems the owner got ahold of the boat just in time before things got very expensive
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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

Nothing about that boat looks fast. It may get moving ok on a reach given enough wind, but by modern standards it is likely a pig on every other point of sail!

You don't buy a boat like that for it's performance, you buy it because you like the style. (To each their own I guess!)
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Re: Wood this be a fast boat?

Waterline looks to be about 20 feet at best. 6 knots?? Hmmm. Fast? Me thinks not.
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