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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

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With a water draft of 7.55' on your Bene 50 you may be limited to where you can anchor/dock in the Bahamas.
BENETEAU 50 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com
With that said, keep me in mind if you decide to sail down.
Thank Caleb, I'll keep you in mind for whatever trip I do.

That is the boat, in the link you provided. It's the version with a 6' draft.

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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

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I feel your pain Brad.

I plan on being in the Rio Dulce for Christmas and the best I have been able to come up with so far is a trip to a marina and renting a panga.

Most any professional skipper will require that you have a liferaft on board.
They cost some significant percentage of what a charter costs.
I don't remember if you have one or not. If you do have one they have to be repacked and serviced every couple of years or so.

There are a lot of those guys that are regulars on this forum so they will chime in with their gear requirements.
Guatemala is a much shorter flight from Miami.

Let me know where you put her when you get down there.

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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

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Our boat is a sweet livaboard too:
top notch fridge and freezer -- ice cream
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Hello Brad,
mmm...Will travel for ice cream,
let me know if it's a go!
With cooperative weather, long weekend could
place boat in mouth of Chesapeake or in
Pamlico sound 400nm +-(inexpensive protected moorings)
within striking distance of n Fl./Bah.

But lots of logistics in play beyond positioning boat.

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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

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The kids are off school for 16 straight days starting December 20th. This rarely happens.

I would love to get the boat down to Florida to spend some time in the Bahamas, but just don't have the $$ to pay a crew, or all the time to sail her down myself. It seems a real shame to kick around Florida instead, staying with relatives, friends, and at hotels -- and not on our boat. But that is what we are looking at.

So throwing it out there to the forum. Any ideas or options that I haven't considered?

Boat is a 2000 Beneteau 505.

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Brad--

Why not offer the boat as "Available for One-Way Charter" to the Bahamas from New York in a couple of sailing magazines--South Winds, Latitude 38, etc. You might actually find someone willing to pay you to sail the boat down to the Bahamas. You could meet her in Marsh Harbor, or West End, or where-ever and keep her in Florida for a year or two, eh?

Think of how old Tom Sawyer got his fence whitewashed, no?
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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

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Hello Brad,
mmm...Will travel for ice cream,
let me know if it's a go!
With cooperative weather, long weekend could
place boat in mouth of Chesapeake or in
Pamlico sound
400nm +-(inexpensive protected moorings)
within striking distance of n Fl./Bah.

But lots of logistics in play beyond positioning boat.

Best,
Hugo
Uhhh, Pamlico Sound? Not with a 68' air draft, he won't :-)

One of the real problems with trying to stage the boat in a place like Beaufort/Morehead City, it's easily a full day of travel out of there to get back home... Now that there's no longer an Avis location in Morehead City, that place has become a real PITA to get to and from... And, it will cost you...

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Brad--

Why not offer the boat as "Available for One-Way Charter" to the Bahamas from New York in a couple of sailing magazines--South Winds, Latitude 38, etc. You might actually find someone willing to pay you to sail the boat down to the Bahamas. You could meet her in Marsh Harbor, or West End, or where-ever and keep her in Florida for a year or two, eh?

Think of how old Tom Sawyer got his fence whitewashed, no?
I don't know, some of these solutions are sounding a bit too 'creative' from an insurance standpoint... I have no idea what sort of coverage Brad might have, but chances are he may have to get a rider to expand the geographical limits of his coverage for such a trip to start with, and I can imagine that any insurer might balk at the prospect of covering such a trip, with a potentially unlicensed skipper and crew...

Not to mention, I would guess the pool of 'customers' willing to pay to sail south around Hatteras in December is probably pretty small :-)
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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

Thanks Hugo. Are you ever not helpful??? I still owe you dinner out for your help in the spring!

I'm getting interested in even a partial trip, if only to do some winter sailing (and not have to antifreeze the water tanks). I could actually sail her in the winter, after a long drive.

Insurance-wise, my insurer insured me as commercial for a day when the boat was in the movie Side Effects. I suppose they would do something similar for a 1-way charter, for a cost of course. I'd have to have a captain on board though.

The main issue is that I don't have the time to sail her down without looking at the calendar.

Perhaps it would be better to leave her in the bahamas, and fly in/out with the family. That way I wouldn't have to cross the stream at all during Christmas vacation.

The kids are also off in February and April. The benefit is obviuos; the logistics are a bit challenging but fun.

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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

If you do the numbers I bet you will find that a week to 10 day charter is cheaper.
Do you really want your boat going to Florida with inexperienced crew and not you. You seem to be as anal about maintenance on your boat as I am. How much is it going to cost you to have someone maintain it in Florida or elsewhere and are they going to do it to your standards? If not, how are you going to like working on the boat for 3 days while the family watches and wonders if you are leaving?
Winterize the tanks and keep sailing.
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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

I did deliveries from the mid-Atlantic states down to Florida years ago when I was doing deliveries for a living. The good news is bad weather will be at your back as you go south. The bad news is if you get into the gulf stream by accident or design, you are in for some bad stuff with the wind out of the north. I've been there and it is no fun.

A 50 footer from Beaufort can probably get down to at least West Palm Beach, Florida in six days hugging the coast to avoid the stream and catch the southbound counter current. If you were driving from Beaufort to West Palm Beach, it is 800 miles and the shape of the route for sailing is about the same as going down I-95. If you have a good weather window and the sails can be easily reefed, the trip should not be too much of a problem. However, I wouldn't wait too long to move. And you better have at minimum 4 crew doing the move on that size boat. Two on watch at all times to quickly handle a problem if one comes up and two in the rack who are getting well rested for their shift. Even if you get all volunteers, they are going to want transportation covered and food. It's going to be costly.

Having said all that, I would be interested to hear how your plans develop. PM me if you will.
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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

Annapolis has a much longer season than NY and is only about three days.
I know a captain that is always up for anything, you have his picture.

I may even know someone who can keep an eye on your boat there.
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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

Looks like I'm getting permission from work to work remotely via my laptop, after Thanksgiving.

That changes things, but means seeking out cell service for the phone and MiFi.

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