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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

Not sure what your last post means Brad? Does it mean that you'll need internet service while you're rounding Hatteras...in December?
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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

The work-remotely option means there's no issues waiting out weather windows. I'll just work those days.

It means that Beaufort would be more attractive than tucking in behind Point Lookout, due to more certain cell coverage.

Combined with some vacation time to use on the way for larger hops, and this is suddenly very possible.

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(Last year at this time there was 50 million gallons of sea water/petroleum products/smelly water in the basement of our buiilding, due to hurricane Sandy. When a wall gave way, the guys working in the basement actually had to dive under the door sill so they could get out. A couple firehoses were tied together to use as a rope to help the last man get out. We all worked from home* for 2 1/2 months, and we all kicked butt. *I worked from the boat for a week because there was no power or Internet at home yet.)
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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

Brad, Give Hank a call.
Offshore Passage Opportunities: Halesite, New York

It is no cost to you and he knows hundreds of good sailors.
You get to pick the best people.
You typically don't have to pay transportation, just food.

Gas will cost a bit. Every trip I've done has been at least 50% or more motoring.
Is your bottom clean, motor and transmission in top shape.


You know I would go if at all possible.

I would ask Hank for a crew of three.

That way if someone backs out or is not up to snuff you have a spare.
I did Annapolis to Mystic early this year with a crew of four and it was very good.

Many hands make light work.

Just a few weeks ago I did Mystic to Norfolk with just me and the owner.
It was ok but it felt a lot more like work 3 on 3 off.

Might as well have a good time and get a good crew.

You will need something for navigation other than your iPhone.
I carry my own chart plotter but you need something for the boat.
Most of your crew will not have their own chart plotter.

Even something basic like GPSMAP 620 or the Montana would probably work.
I would consider this a requirement.

Based on my last trip a AIS receiver is a very nice thing to have.
Maybe you can get one to connect to your laptop.


Everyone today making that trip has a life-raft.
They can be rented.
If you don't intend on securing one you really need to tell prospective crew.

There are a lot of places where the idea of staying just off the coast and ducking in when it gets bad is not going to work.
It can take hours to duck in and by the time you get there the pass is too rough to enter.

Better to be prepared to be off-shore and have room and get to where you are going.

You have a tough big boat that will pretty much handle anything.

One dumb question.
Do you have another big vacation coming up to bring the boat back?
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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

Good advice David.

My only concern is that I'll want to pause in good anchorages more than typical crew would want to -- unless they are in no rush to get to Florida. At least they would have Internet, Netflix and a dinghy to explor with, and good food & beer. (Hey we'd be at anchor.) It would be like a acation for them.

This is offset by the work-underway factor. With a good crew, and since we are hugging the coast, I could get some good work done while underway.

By the way, the plan is now to vacation in the Florida keys, not the Bahamas. There's enough to do in the keys. And then there's no waiting for the right weathers to cross the 'stream.

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A lot of the guys are retired.
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Re: How to get my boat to Florida without breaking the bank

Brad:

Some thoughts on your trip from some one who has done it a number of times from Sag Harbor or Newport, all but once singlehanded. I'm excluding a straight shot or a one stopper in my posting as you say you'll need to check into work.

Leave Montauk to stbd and sail to a waypoint of about N37*25' W74*30. This is your decision point, based on the weather forecast, to either enter the Norfolk area or continue around Hatteras. Assuming that you leave Montauk Harbor on a good weather forecast, it could be largely worthless by the time you are approaching the Norfolk area. This will likely be the most important decision you'll make once you have left the dock. (I don't like to get to close to Hatteras so I use a waypoint of N35*10' W75*10' when going South.) I've made the trip to Beaufort, NC in about 4 days on my 35 foot Pretorian. Dress for winter, as I had one trip where is was sleeting for hours.

I really like Beaufort, NC and always stop there. It is a lovely place even in December and the dock staff is very pleasant and helpful.

Then lay Charleston to arrive in daylight. (I am dead against night landfalls and Charleston is one place that I'd never, ever enter at night.) The town docks there are tops, and they even have a shuttle van to downtown and to West Marine.

From there Fernandina or Cape Canaveral work and then on to where ever you want to end up in South Florida.

I did a straight shot on my last trip from Beaufort to Miami in 5 days, but it was blowing 30s NNE and I was on a rocket. It was a glorious sail and there was no one out there but me. A reminder, there is lots of traffic out there so it can be a more stressful trip than one to Bermuda or the Caribbean for that reason. AIS is a life changer but many smaller vessels don't use it, and it is sometime inoperable on larger ones.

If you draft is 6' or more, your cruising options in the Keys are somewhat limited, but you can sail down Hawks Channel to Key West and hang there for a while. It's a hoot.

Have a great adventure.

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Then lay Charleston to arrive in daylight. (I am dead against night landfalls and Charleston is one place that I'd never, ever enter at night.) The town docks there are tops, and they even have a shuttle van to downtown and to West Marine.
One problem with entering Charleston harbor in daylight nowadays, good chance you'll be boarded by the CG... They were out there in full force on Friday, seemingly boarding as many boats as they could, they picked us off as we were the first of a few boats in line - although the boat's home port of Vail, Colorado also seemed to arouse their suspicion...

Also, something I haven't noticed before, these alleged "Safety Checks" were also being conducted by vessels from the Dept of Natural Resources, and some other County/Sheriff's LEOs... I have never seen such a presence of law enforcement in Charleston Harbor before, and I wasn't aware that an agency like the DNR had the authority to conduct such boardings...

If they keep that crap up, it could become a good reason to bypass Charleston...
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....If they keep that crap up, it could become a good reason to bypass Charleston...
Interesting. Charleston went all out to attract winter dockside storage. I received mailers, emails, etc.

Makes one wonder if traffic has been driven away.
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One problem with entering Charleston harbor in daylight nowadays, good chance you'll be boarded by the CG... They were out there in full force on Friday, seemingly boarding as many boats as they could, they picked us off as we were the first of a few boats in line - although the boat's home port of Vail, Colorado also seemed to arouse their suspicion...

Also, something I haven't noticed before, these alleged "Safety Checks" were also being conducted by vessels from the Dept of Natural Resources, and some other County/Sheriff's LEOs... I have never seen such a presence of law enforcement in Charleston Harbor before, and I wasn't aware that an agency like the DNR had the authority to conduct such boardings...

If they keep that crap up, it could become a good reason to bypass Charleston...
I went into Charleston this spring and saw no sign of LE, in fact I saw no LE anywhere on the trip down except as escorts for subs and warships. They were probably looking for something in particular the day you went in.
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I went into Charleston this spring and saw no sign of LE, in fact I saw no LE anywhere on the trip down except as escorts for subs and warships. They were probably looking for something in particular the day you went in.
Nah, they weren't looking for anything at all, our boarding was obviously nothing more than a training exercise, they were walking the new guys through the process, as have been the overwhelming percentage of boardings I've been subjected to over the years... One thing they definitely missed, however, they never bothered to inquire whether we had any weapons aboard, before stepping aboard themselves...

I'm guessing that nearing the end of the year, they might have also had some 'quota' of boardings to meet... The older guy in charge practically admitted as much, suggesting that they usually took advantage of the increased number of boats passing thru Charleston this time of year... Each CG Sector's budget for next year is likely to be somewhat dependent upon how 'busy' that unit was the previous year, after all...

If they were actually "looking for something in particular", I doubt they would have been stopping the Cabo Rico 42 I was running, while a couple of hundred meters away, the DNR was doing a "Safety Check' of a an 80' Azimut motoryacht...

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