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Puget No Discharge Zone

Our marina harbormaster came back from a conference saying the Washington state was poised to make Puget Sound a No Discharge Zone. Anyone know anything about this?

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Ew! if anyone does discharge in it! does the sound qualify as "off shore"? I'd guess not.

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I thought discharging here int he sound was already illegal! Heck, one can not even clean a bottom with ablative paint legally, with out a potential 10K fine!


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I know it's illegal to discharge sewage (which for recreational boats I think is ridiculous), not sure when it became law. If you are boarded by the CG one of the things they check is if your Y valve is turned to your holding tank and secured in that position with a wire tie or something similar (if not, they will write you a citation). In BC it's legal to discharge except in popular anchorages, makes a lot of sense.

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I should have been more clear on the details in the post. This isn't about an eeew factor. Currently vessels must either have a holding tank or a Marine Sanitation Device (MSD) to process sewage. A NDZ would prohibit the latter.
The MSD macerates the blackwater then processes it to kill all bacteria and organisms. Type I MSDs are on recreational boats. LECTRA-San by Raritan is the most common and typically are used to backfit on boats built before holding tank rules came out. Type II MSDs are on commercial vessels.
While NDZs in lakes, marinas and harbors are fairly common, the only saltwater NDZs I know of are Narragansett Bay and Santa Catalina Island.

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While NDZs in lakes, marinas and harbors are fairly common, the only saltwater NDZs I know of are Narragansett Bay and Santa Catalina Island.
There are many, many No Discharge Zones throught the U.S., both in freshwater and saltwater bodies:

No Discharge Zones by State | Vessel Water Discharge | US EPA
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I know it's illegal to discharge sewage (which for recreational boats I think is ridiculous), not sure when it became law.
40+ years ago.

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I thought discharging here int he sound was already illegal! Heck, one can not even clean a bottom with ablative paint legally, with out a potential 10K fine!


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it's worse than that. I remember reading about the CG cutter Osprey Got the nickname of "dirty bird" while stationed there because it was always dirty due to the fact that no soap can contact the water in Washington.

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I have not heard of the no soap part........or at least nothing with phosphorous in it is highly recommended. But one can use natural soaps if you will around here. My marina is one of the more stringent ones from this stand point. They prefer you to just hose off. We do have pretty good pressure at the hose, so most poops will clean off. A little wax, high pressure water, most of it is gone.

A lot of the boat cleaners are now using more environment friendly cleaning chemicals if you will in them, as to not hurt the area. My marina does not like cleaning of boats, or fish or equal, as it can be a bit of a dead zone per say from what will eat and clean up this stuff. OR, if too much gets into the water, then some of the more predatory fish and wildlife may end up in the marina, which is not wanted either. At least that is the marina's reasoning, be it true or false......or some where in the middle, is another story.

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I find it odd that that's what they are focusing on when there are 10's of thousands of diesel engine pumping raw fuel into the water through their exhaust every day. Typical governmental morons wasting our money!
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