Originally Posted by unimacs
Since I really don't know what Moxie's background is, it is also tempting for me to bring in a lot of my own history and the people I've know in an attempt to draw parallels.
very true. it is all guess work on my part, especially since the video is purposely deceptive about some facts. i hadn't considered that. one thing i will bet on: even if moxie and his crew are just acting the part, it's that group of kids which he is aiming at.
i agree with everyone here that has said about the questionable things they were supposed to have done. wrong action is never excused by situation. however, i also think, as has been suggested, that those things might not be what they were depicted to be.
already, i suspected the nature of their 'stolen 'materials to have been taken from the construction site dumpster. for one thing, new materials are usually in 8 foot lengths, or better. i can't see them sneaking away with a 4X8 sheet of plywood. of course, that's another issue. real plywood isn't usually used on a jobsite anymore. those days are past. most often, sheathing is OSB or a structural foam insulating material. neither of which would really work for a boat. OSB is really crap, as far as structural use. anyhow, flooring is usually Advantech or another, similar, composite wood product. very heavy, although structurally sound for interior use. i wouldn't use it for too many things on a boat.
as some of you may know, i am presently fixing up an old cal27. i guess i joined the anarchist yacht club. lol. recently, i made a call to the super of the jobsite next to the one i was previously working on. i needed a few materials to replace a couple of missing access panels and to make companionway steps. he told me i could have whatever i needed. i did find a new composite sheathing material that was very rigid. good for access panels. they don't have to take a ton of weight but it was much better than OSB, anyway. i did get a small piece of advantech, for the step treads, and some 2X6 material for the risers. anyhow, i wouldn't use advantech for anything else, in a boat, just because of weight. but my point was that you don't have to steal scrap material from a jobsite. it helps to have connections but, usually, if you ask, a super will let you have some, especially if you let him know what your project is. it's going to be trashed, anyway. but, again, there isn't a lot of stuff, on a site, that is really good for a boat. i didn't see anything, on the interior of their boat, that looked as if it was made of readily available construction materials, either.
then there is that bit about the dinghy hoist. there is a boat where, my cal is berthed, that has that exact dinghy crane. i saw the video before i saw that boat, so this did not occur to me at the time i saw the video. but, that crane would, in no way, be capable of lifting a few hundred pounds of mast. steel tubing only has so much strength and the harware on it would only be strong enough to fulfill it's intended purpose. hand made things are sometimes over engineered but never production goods.
so, i agree with others who have posted. i don't think those illegal elements really did happen. i think it was for effect. street cred, as one poster said.