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His name was Donald Crowhurst, and he committed suicide, he did not fall over the side while peeing. He faked his round the world sail, staying in the SoAtlantic off Brazil, but his conscience got the better of him. He did develop a one time period Lat/Long navigation system that I used on my circumnavigation whenever possible. He left detailed records of his voyage and thoughts and his boat was found floating, undamaged. Book; The Strange Last Voyage of Donald Crowhurst.
I cant remeber what his last entry was but in the movie it seriously brought me to tears...I remeber people walking out thinking they were gpoing to see something like robert redfords new movie

they were visibly shaken by what HAUNTS the human soul

donalds bigges worry beleive it or not was being labeled a loser and fake when returning to england...

it is my beleif that this single fear could account for what later transcribed...
again who knows REALLY

just sad in the end
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Re: Missing Boat Found- No Skipper

It's interesting to me that Crowhurst and Teignmouth have been mentioned in 2 different posts over the past day. If I recall the book correctly, the author also speculated that he might have gone swimming on a calm day and the boat just got too far away before it picked up some wind. Based on his journal, though, his mind (which was brilliant) was going haywire and it didn't seem like he wanted to go back, but neither did Moitessier... It's easy to conjure up dozens of scenarios with no evidence and the person not around to finish the story. Best to enjoy it while you have it while reducing risks to the level you're comfortable with.
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The mainland is NE of Oahu 2300 miles. To the west there is about 6000 miles of water.
I suppose a boat could float around out there a while without being seen .
My condolences to the family.
It is a big freakin ocean out there:

from:Missing Kauai Sailor Turns Up Safe on Big island | Beyond Honolulu


"Missing Kauai Sailor Turns Up Safe on Big island
January 2, 2012
By Beyond Honolulu Staff
Share0Tweet1Share0Share0Share1In a very bizarre twist, a missing Kauai sailor who had gone missing last week after leaving Kauai headed for Oahu has turned up safe on the Big Island (Hawaii).

Just a couple of days after the Coast Guard suspended its search for the sailor, 66-year-old Ira Foreman of Seattle, Wash. — arrived at Honokohau Harbor on Hawaii island — two weeks late and nearly 100 miles off course but alive.

So, how does the coast guard put together a search that includes a massive four-day search for Foreman covering some 209,000 square miles and involved a MH-65 Dolphin helicopter, a HC-130 Hercules airplane, and two Navy P-3 Orion planes and come up with nothing? Interesting.

Here is how the current story is playing out. Foreman left Port Allen, Kauai, on the morning of Dec. 17 but failed to arrive at Keehi Lagoon as scheduled the next day. He was reported missing a week later.

Search and rescue officials at Coast Guard Sector Honolulu received word Saturday from Foreman’s ex-wife that Foreman had contacted her via cell phone, telling her that he had been blown off course by strong winds but was never in any distress.

Officials were able to triangulate Foreman’s location based on his call and an aircrew from an HC-130 Hercules plane from Barbers Point Air Station was able to spot a vessel matching the description of Foreman’s 36-foot sailboard shortly after midnight. The crew, however, was not able to establish communication with the vessel.

The Coast Guard made contact with Foreman on his mobile phone around 8 a.m. Sunday and Foreman reported his location as 20 miles west of Kealekekua. He arrived at Honokohau Harbor around 3 p.m.

“We are eager to meet with Mr. Foreman to find some answers about this very challenging case,” said Capt. Joanna Nunan, commander of Sector Honolulu, in a Coast Guard news release.

As of right now, the Coast Guard has not taken a statement or story from Foreman. I will say this, there seems to be more here than what is being told.

It should be interesting to see how this plays out, however, as of right now, Foreman is alive and well."


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"The Coast Guard Suspends its Search for a Missing Kauai Sailor
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Ira Foreman
The Coast Guard has decided to suspend its search for a missing sailor who mysteriously disappeared when he sailed from Kauai to Oahu earlier this month.

Ira Foreman, a sailor originally from Seattle, departed from Port Allen on Kauai Dec. 17. He was sailing a 36-foot sailboat named Arcturus and was supposed to reach Keehi Lagoon on Oahu the following day. His wife reported him overdue about a week later, late Saturday afternoon.

According to his wife, Foreman was originally sailing from American Samoa to Oahu, but happened to go off-course and ended up at Port Allen instead. He stayed aboard his sailboat at anchor for one day before departing for Oahu. That was the last anyone has seen or heard from him. It seems as though there have been a lot of missing persons reports from the ocean area around Hawaii lately.

The sailboat that Foreman was aboard is being described as having a white hull, white sails, no name on the transom, and four portholes on both sides of the cabin. Foreman reportedly had a cell phone, personal locator beacon, and VHF radio on board.

None of these apparently are helping the Coast Guard. They have searched and area of around 178,000 square miles continuously since Sunday, stretching about 600 miles west of Kauai, by Wednesday.

The search was finally called off Wednesday at 7:50 p.m., pending new information about Foreman’s whereabouts, according to Coast Guard spokeswoman Angela Henderson.

Anyone with information on Foreman’s whereabouts is urged to call Coast Guard Sector Honolulu at (808) 842-2600.

Not very often does this happen, especially with someone who has a personal locator on board their vessel"

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this reminds me less of Crowhurst than of Jure Sterk, from the port of Piran, in Slovenia. His 30' sloop "LUNATIK" was found at sea by a research ship, Jure missing. A partial mystery, but likely he fell in and drowned while trying to clean off some bottom growth around the rudder. He was sailing around the world and was 3/4 of the way there:

Sail-World.com : Modern Sea Mysteries: Solving the mystery of Jure Sterk

I found this a poignant story, and felt by turns sad and sorry, then proud and not sorry, for Jure Sterk and how it ended for him.

May have been much the same for our poor fellow here, though on a much shorter voyage. Yet the boat, like a faithful dog waiting for its owner, waits on, drifting..
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No we all do not pee over the side. What a stupid, unsafe thing to do! Even in Harbour at anchor, or at a marina peeing over the can be fatal with one slip and the bang on the head.

I hope this guy didn't die that useless and wasteful way.

But for anyone reading this please remember that peeing over the side is an absolute no-no.



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Indeed we do NOT. I cannot think of anything more idiotic than trying to balance on the rail to take a pee. For anyone who can't figure this out here's three really complicated ideas: A Cup, A Bottle, A Bucket....geeeeez.
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Indeed we do NOT. I cannot think of anything more idiotic than trying to balance on the rail to take a pee. For anyone who can't figure this out here's three really complicated ideas: A Cup, A Bottle, A Bucket....geeeeez.
I am sorry. But I have Shi Shi'd over the side, and while single handing. Not really so dangerous (and I have done it in rough weather). I am clipped in and wrap my arms around the main and aft lower shroud. It is saver than working at the mast or the bow. Maybe it is an unnecessary risk, but it does keep me in shape when I do need to go to the bow or mast. Maybe you will read about me in the paper one day. Oh well, there could be worst ways to die....
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ther is also a book in spanish from an argentine who talks a different angle about the whole race...
Do you happen to know the name of this book, or the author? I would love to read it.
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The PO of my boat did a single handed circumnavigation. She always had two floating polypropalene lines 100 feet long trailing off each side of the stern. The idea if she fell in, swim to a line and hope you can pull yourself on board.
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It's interesting to me that Cromwell and Teignmouth have been mentioned in 2 different posts over the past day. If I recall the book correctly, the author also speculated that he might have gone swimming on a calm day and the boat just got too far away before it picked up some wind. Based on his journal, though, his mind (which was brilliant) was going haywire and it didn't seem like he wanted to go back, but neither did Moitessier... It's easy to conjure up dozens of scenarios with no evidence and the person not around to finish the story. Best to enjoy it while you have it while reducing risks to the level you're comfortable with.

well said...much better put than my words...
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Do you happen to know the name of this book, or the author? I would love to read it.
I wish I could remember...I will search...the documentary I saw was again argentinian...it recounted in the words of the fisherman and others who saw crowhurst enter and leave the small bay.

the movie of course is DEEP WATER
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