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Re: Missing Boat Found- No Skipper

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If you put a hip flask on the bottom of that with enough hose to reach your ankle it's called a "Motorman's Friend".
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If you put a hip flask on the bottom of that with enough hose to reach your ankle it's called a "Motorman's Friend".
I don't even want to think about that..
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Re: Missing Boat Found- No Skipper

While I don't think they are necessary for being at the helm, I thought I would also introduce you all to the idea of the condom catheter. Just like it sounds, its a condom with a tube off the end that goes to a bag strapped to you leg. Easily available in med supply stores. Available as disposable or more sturdy washable versions.

We used them for long, typically decompression diving. Naturally, you can't unzip underwater. Some would use them in the cockpit, but only in specific circumstances.

One might consider the idea, if you have a long watch with layers of insulation and overall foulies. Actually, it takes some minor psychological mastery to just start peeing in your pants.
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Why can't people use the Head down below? Was it. Built for a joke?
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Re: Missing Boat Found- No Skipper

cause sometimes you just CANT...really! things happen and you cant take a break....especialy alone
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cause sometimes you just CANT...really! things happen and you cant take a break....especialy alone
Oh twaddle! Utter total twaddle!

I've single handed 15,000 nms or more including into and out of New York, down the ICW, Gibralter straits and much more andI can find the time to go below.

To say that someone can't is just plain ignorant! If people can't sail well enough to piss in the right place they should stay at their marina.

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Re: Missing Boat Found- No Skipper

thats your opinion..

and this isnt my penis is bigger than yours contest either but in my 24k nm sailing history I HAVE been in instances where I just cant go down...

that might be becaise I usually sail more simple boats with only maybe one form of self steering, or maybe it might be that I unfortunately got in a situation that I couldnt take a quick break from the helm...who knows? not the point!

man!!!!!!!!

is it that hard to beleive that other people have other points of view?

I mean what if your autopilot failed, and you lost something oevrboard, or your sail got stuck, or whatever I mean there are infinite scenarios...yet you think there will ALWAYS be a chance to go down into the head and sit down and take a pee?

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its not all about what I think...we must always see other points of view
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Re: Missing Boat Found- No Skipper

One of the more common ways that experienced river runners drown is from foot entrapment. River current running even as slow as 4 mph (< 3.5 knots) can hold a body under if the foot is snagged in a crevice or tangled on a line - even when wearing the typical pfd. One of the dangers that is covered in swift water safety courses is that of entanglement in loose line. The difficulty of reaching and releasing a line from your foot in moving water is surprising to the uninitiated. It doesn't take much current or movement through the water for the drag to become overpowering. For what it's worth - in swift water rescue training, they teach you to float on your back when being pulled in on a line. Rescue pfd vests have the attachment point on the back for the same reason (so you can breath).

How that all translates to the subject at hand is beyond me - but I think I will just avoid falling out.
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Re: Missing Boat Found- No Skipper

steve in idaho and others...perfect example of what you are just talking about just happened...middle aged man...couldnt get back on board his boat...being dragged, holding on for dear life...

http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/...0#.Uo4wZOKvmu5

this happens a lot on the bay btw...
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Re: Missing Boat Found- No Skipper

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steve in idaho and others...perfect example of what you are just talking about just happened...middle aged man...couldnt get back on board his boat...being dragged, holding on for dear life...

Latitude 38 - 'Lectronic Latitude

this happens a lot on the bay btw...
A lot to think about there. Thanks.
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