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While "adware" is not universal and ads don't just happen...Yet. There is a point to be made that 20 or 30 years ago, there was no adware at all, was there?
You are right, on the internet there was no adware 20 or 30 years ago. It's a battle of pernicious marketing and consumer backlash.

But there certainly were ad-supported services 20 and 30 years ago. Broadcast television. Radio. I personally started an ad-supported newspaper 20 years ago, and sold it. It's still going, still a free newspaper supported by ads.

But there is backlash. I pay $35 a year for an email address that is non-commercial. I subscribe to HBO and Showtime and Netflix so I can watch TV without ads. Just last weekend I paid twenty-freaking-dollars a ticket to see Catching Fire on an IMAX screen. That's a lot of money, but it was an IMAX screen and there were *no* ads before the movie.


So yeah, I can picture a Google Glass app that uses the left third of your eyeball to advertise everything under the sun. But I can also imagine that that would pi$$ enough people off that they'd be willing to pay Navionics (or whomever) $50 for a similar app that didn't ad at them.

And the battle goes on....
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Adware is now a norm, although AFAIK there is always an ad-free paid version, who is to say THAT state of affairs will continue?
How about the developers of those applications stating that this is the way it will continue... you know, like myself. For an authoritative opinion on what a developer intends to do with their software, it's often far better to ask them than to consider what some random dude on an Internet forum thinks.

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But as anyone who has used a typical Android device can tell you...Androids are infamous for going out to lunch. For freezing up, queuing keystrokes, coming back when they please, and finding ways to almost make us wish we had Apples. (VBG)
Sure, some devices running the Android OS do that just like some PC's running Windows or Linux will suffer from inadequate resources and make you wish you had simply remained in Apple's walled garden. That's not the fault of the OS though, but the underlying hardware.

Trust me, as someone who actually develops applications on/for Windows Mobile, Android, and iOS platforms - Android is the one making best use of the resources on offer. When it comes to getting the best performance out of limited hardware - I can get more out of the Android OS than it's two competitors.

You want to believe that Google will break their long-standing practices when it comes to devices bearing their brand, and that's fine. That doesn't make it right, that doesn't make it consistent with existing practice, and that doesn't change the fact that GGlass (I like the nick - I'll be using it from now on) does not force advertising at this point in time.

With it's operating system being open-source, should it ever become Google's practice to force advertising on their developers (you know, contrary to logic, standard business practice, and providing Apple a game-winning free kick against the platform) - the requirement will be removed by developers such as the guys at CynogenMod.
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Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

Does anyone here own a pair? Both the hype and the hyperbole might be premature, I understand from people who do own a pair of Google Glass that they just don't really work that well. The only use they get out of them is showing them to other people, really.
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Does anyone here own a pair? Both the hype and the hyperbole might be premature, I understand from people who do own a pair of Google Glass that they just don't really work that well. The only use they get out of them is showing them to other people, really.
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Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

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You are right, on the internet there was no adware 20 or 30 years ago. It's a battle of pernicious marketing and consumer backlash.

But there certainly were ad-supported services 20 and 30 years ago. Broadcast television. Radio. I personally started an ad-supported newspaper 20 years ago, and sold it. It's still going, still a free newspaper supported by ads.

But there is backlash. I pay $35 a year for an email address that is non-commercial. I subscribe to HBO and Showtime and Netflix so I can watch TV without ads. Just last weekend I paid twenty-freaking-dollars a ticket to see Catching Fire on an IMAX screen. That's a lot of money, but it was an IMAX screen and there were *no* ads before the movie.


So yeah, I can picture a Google Glass app that uses the left third of your eyeball to advertise everything under the sun. But I can also imagine that that would pi$$ enough people off that they'd be willing to pay Navionics (or whomever) $50 for a similar app that didn't ad at them.

And the battle goes on....
I remember using Net Zero 15 years ago. Adds paid for internet access. so it has been around longer than Google. Of course that was back in dialup days, and had 14,400 modem at the time.
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Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

In the theme of asking the developers what they will, won't, can, & cannot do on the device...
No Ads on Google Glass
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Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

Woman (employed by google I guess ) driving in San Diego was.pulled over for speeding and was also ticketed for wearing her google glasses, it appears wearing these while driving is a distraction much like texting or having a video player going.

She is fighting the ticket saying she did not have them turned on............yeah right
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Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

pappy, the san diego case has got nothing to do with "distractions" which generally aren't illegal. Specifically the officer cited her for something like watching a tv or video display, which is against cali code, and the appeal will revolve around whether gglasses are or aren't the same thing as watching a dvd while you're driving. If her glasses were off, then it is the same thing as having a dvd player in the car--which is perfectly legal in the front seat when it is off.

Cali police and highway patrol are somewhat notorious for their enforcement of cali's many rather extreme motor vehicle issues. And cops in general are rather sadly known for being grossly misinformed about what the laws really are or aren't. Or at least, pretending that they were just misinformed when they knew damn well up front that they were wrong.
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Actually distraction does have something to do with it according to Ca traffic law. According to the ticketing officer the glasses were on while she was driving. The woman said they were off and when she turned her head to look at the officer they turned on. (Wake mode).

The issue is they are a video device which is not allowed in the driver view by law (except for nav devices) if every time you move your head or eyes to look over your shoulder, rear view mirror or even your passenger and they activate, they are a distraction

Ialso read that lawmakers are already trying to ban them while operating a motor vehicle
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