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Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

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No, I'm talking about the android licenses, not the Apache license. Google is actually obligated to terminate the licenses of the violators, or under federal law they are considered to have abandoned the license and then no one has to follow it at all. That's the way these things go.
Um, no. Just no. That's simply wrong on the facts.

If you want to go into detail about this, we can take it to Off-Topic or PM (depending on how public you want/need the discussion), but let's not bog down a thread about a device & it's (potential) use in sailing with a completely non-sailing-related debate about the difference between contracts & licenses, the legal doctrine of laches, and how Android is distributed. We can also bring all your other non-sailing related gripes about Google over too if you need to go over them
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Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

Here is the thing. This stuff is optional. You can make use of it whenever you like, or you can turn it off whenever you like. No one can make you Google anything.

And you don't need to utilize the vast resources available on youtube. If you want to learn how to do something, you are free to do it the old fashioned way. But here is the genius of the youtube business plan. Google pays people to post how-to videos (or any videos). So you can bet, if it can be taught, it is probably on youtube or soon to be. Want to learn how to trim your main better? Youtube. Change the timing belt on your 1982 1/2 honda accord? youtube. Sweat your pipes? Bleed your diesel? winterize your boat? change your oil? The only thing not on youtube is how to do heart surgery, but that is probably not too far out.

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Ah, yes... Just a matter of time before we live in an Awesome Age completely devoid of one of my favorite aspects of exploring the world under sail, and travel in general...

Namely, SERENDIPITY...

I know, that stuff's for romantics, or dinosaurs... :-)



Well, you may think you can...

However, you would be sadly mistaken...
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Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

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Here is the thing. This stuff is optional. You can make use of it whenever you like, or you can turn it off whenever you like. No one can make you Google anything.
Like anything else Google Glass will be a tool. You can use it if you want to or need to. Its not like it would be an implant that you can't turn off, at least not yet..

Its like all the other electronics out there, can you sail without it? Sure, Will it be helpful? In some cases. Will you have to use it? No. Its a tool.
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Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

PEEPERS PARADISE:- this is just another tool for perverts watch and see what's coming o lot of people would have their pics end up on the net, no camera in the restrooms you say, or the gym bathroom?
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Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

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Like anything else Google Glass will be a tool. You can use it if you want to or need to. Its not like it would be an implant that you can't turn off, at least not yet..

Its like all the other electronics out there, can you sail without it? Sure, Will it be helpful? In some cases. Will you have to use it? No. Its a tool.
Yep, just like a sextant is a tool. Might not be all that easy to take a noon sight whilst wearing Google Glasses though.

It'd be cool if you could just look at the sun and have the Glasses work out a LOP from there.. oh, wait, maybe not!
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PEEPERS PARADISE:- this is just another tool for perverts watch and see what's coming o lot of people would have their pics end up on the net, no camera in the restrooms you say, or the gym bathroom?
You do realise that there are cheaper, more inconspicuous, and easily available cameras for this already right? What's more likely to arouse your suspicions walking into a restroom? This guy?

or this one (with this in his shirt)?


Peepers don't want you to see the camera... making Google Glass a pretty bad option for them.
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Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

The reason I sail is to get away from stuff like this. I'm a sailor, not a fighter pilot.
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... Coming into harbor just now we had a tug boat coming the other way in a narrow-ish channel. My 'Glass showed it was the 'Lasy Susan' about to spin my world around. Indeed, the AIS prediction had it passing very close to me in 2 minutes and 20 seconds. I stared at the words 'Lazy Susan' on the Glass and then winked. VFH went live, with his ID already dialed in.

"Lazy Susan, this is the sailing vessel Rag Dryer, off your bow", I said.

About this time I glanced to my port, blinked a long slow blink and brought up the depth overlay, adjusted for the present tide height. It was too shallow to go there. The Active Captain link was working too, as there was an unmarked piling 100 yards off, one of several obstructions in the area. It looked good to the starboard, but it meant backtracking a bit. And he might be headed that way.

"Rag Dryer, Lazy Susan", was the reply. Voice recognition took a second, it's usually pretty slow like that. Finally, up popped the name Vincent Boatsalot, age 42, divorced twice, 3 kids, smoker, failed a drug test back in 05. It was dismissed because he ate a poppy bagel that morning. The retest the next day was fine. No DUIs. Tax payer. Good credit rating. Jets fan.

My 'Glass told me that his 'Glass was looking at me. I can only assume my 'Glass was informing his 'Glass that I was looking at him. (And there was another sailboat in the distance looking at each of us.)

"Are you taking the turn to your port or continuing straight", I said.

"We're going straight; suggest 1 whistle.", was the reply. Those tug drivers are good.

So I glanced up at the autopilot icon and did the usual wink nod and look to the right. The boat immediately changed course.

Then I took a sip of my coffee and went back to listening to my favorite 80s channel. The coffee was good so that I order another pound to be delivered to the marina and twittered how much I liked it. That done, I took another sip.

As the tug passed, I brought up VHF with his ID again and said "Go Jets".

I was surprised at the reply as he said "80s music rocks, Bene505."

Two blinks later and we were following each other on Instagram, so I DVR-ed back a couple minutes, edited the screen shot and posted a picture of his fine ship. He immediately liked it and hash-tagged it for his friends to see, at #tugsunderway.

Then I took another sip, slowed the boat down and left my hammock on the bow to get a refill.

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Brad, I wish my experience was a good one like yours. But my Google Glass tale is one of disaster and woe... There I was, sailing into the channel on my return, when all of a sudden-

I had just brought down the sails and gotten them secured a few minutes ago. Turning into the channel we were taking wind on the port beam, not a big deal but I had to keep correcting steerage to port just a little because of shallow water to stbd and a rocky jetty. I wasn't making full RPM and I swore I was hearing an intermittant rattle. Tapped the 'Glass and diagnostics looked okay. Temp was good, good coolant level, oil pressure looked good.... but that rattle- and we just weren't making the headway I expected.

Tide was running out, so that accounted for the loss of headway, but that rattle- what the heck was it? Eye Blink to bring up engine diagnostics again. Quick snap of my neck to flip to the next screen. nothing. Quick Snap. nothing there. Quick Snap. "DO YOU WANT TO UPGRADE TO THE FULL VERSION OF "app" ?

Dammit! Quick shake of my head. "NO!"

the box closes.

Next box "Limited Time Offer: Sale on Diesel Parts! click now to save $$$, order today to get it by Tuesday with Super Saver Shipping"

Dammit! "NO!" I shout and shake my head violently

Alarm sounds in my ear. "ALARM CHECK!" I shout. The Alarms screen pops up. DEPTH ALARM: MINIMUM DEPTH

I look up and the wind has caused us to drift stbd so I course correct. But I see a hundred yards ahead that a tug pushing barges has rounded the bend and is coming at me. Why didn't AIS give an alarm?!

I tap my 'Glass. That stupid popup is there asking if I want to buy diesel parts. I clear the popup.

ALARM! GONG GONG GONG GONG GONG GONG The "US NAVY GENERAL QUARTERS alarm ringtone I had selected for my alarm sound was an obvious poor choice right now.

"Alarm check!" I shout to the continuous GONG GONG GONG GONG GONG that is pulverizing my brain by the second.

The Alarm screen pops up. AIS ALARM: MV RUSTY BUCKET : COLLISION WARNING

Damn popup! How long has this alarm been blocked by the popup?

"Radio!" I shout

The Radio App comes up, tuned to 16. Great.

POPUP: THERE IS AN UPDATE AVAILABLE FOR RADIO APP. WOULD YOU LIKE TO UPDATE 'RADIO APP' FOR .99 ?

"NO! CLOSE! CLEAR!" I shout while shaking my head side to side to close the app, trying to focus my vision through the head shaking as I frantically scramble to find a course that will clear the barges and still allow me room so that I don't get pushed up on the jetties by his wake.

My wife is screaming now because she has just come up from below and sees what is going on.

I throw my 'Glass across the cockpit because the popup is blocking one of my eyes and the alarm sound in my ear is driving my crazy.

My son picks up my Google Glass and puts it on. He sees the popup and begins tapping the side of the glasses. He somehow brings up my list of previously visited internet sites and blinks.

BOW-CHICKA-BOWWW-NOOOOWWWWW WOCKA WOCKA WOCKA

Mom looks over at Junior who is wide-eyed- mouth gaping, and he's got both arms stretched out in front of him, with both hands squeezing the virtual Charmin.


So, there I was- threading the needle with my wife beating me across the head and shoulders with my West Marine collapsible boat hook screaming like a banshee, Junior over there learning way too much too soon about the birds and the bees, well the birds mostly.... and me trying to save our lives because I got us into this mess worrying about my engine.


Thanks, Google Glass.
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Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

bow chika wow wow

you just know at some point in time people are going be walking down the street watching full on porn like nothing then asking for a latte at the coffee shop while talking about the market etc whike in the corner of their eye all sorts of stuff is going on that would normally overload your senses to the max

but since we will be so "evolutioned" by then multitasking like this will be so easy nobody will even care

this reminds me of the funny sketch of conan obriens old show

"in the year 2000" where all sorts of ridiculous inventions, theories and scenarios where brought up to make people laugh...the sad part is so many of the things are becoming true

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But my Google Glass tale is one of disaster and woe...

...

Next box "Limited Time Offer: Sale on Diesel Parts! click now to save $$$, order today to get it by Tuesday with Super Saver Shipping"

Dammit! "NO!" I shout and shake my head violently

I don't get why people keep talking about popups and advertising. None of this happens in Navionics or any other sailing apps for iPad or Android, why do you think they would on sailing apps for Google Glass?
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