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What are my options for parking this boat in this slip?
I've done it once and it worked out OK but not the exactly the way I wanted it to.

The problem was that the wind was from my stern as I came down the fairway.
The plan wast to go down far enough to turn into the "P" dock then do a K turn and tie up port side.

What happened is that since I was going very slowly I was unable to get the bow to swing upwind enough and I got pinned against the piling to the right of the waverunner docks.
It was no problem I just springed off the piling and forced the bow around and and it worked fine. During the season however their may be boats protruding from the pilings.

The constraints are that this has to be single handed and has to be port side tie up.
My dock is the end of "O" where the blue dot is.




So here are the options I know of:
Just do the maneuver faster.

Make the turn into the T dock before the "P" fairway and even touch the dock with the bow and let the wind blow the stern down.

Bring the bow to the aft dock post at any angle and lasso it let the stern swing down then get off the boat at the bow and manually pull the boat in place.

Attempt to tie off starboard side too and from the dock swing the boat.

What method to you figure would have the best chance of success either from the above choices or something different.
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Re: Yet Another Docking thread

In my boat, which will pivot 180 degrees in its own length, or nearly, I would just proceed down the left side of the fairway just a bit faster than necessary to maintain steerage, turn to starboard at the end, letting the wind slow me down as I approached the slip at a very slow walking speed. If I need to scrub off more speed I can throttle up in reverse for a few seconds. Since the prop walks the boat to port in reverse, this will actually help pull the stern in. Engine idling, transmission in neutral, step ashore as the boat comes to a complete stop with a line to a midship cleat lead to an anchor point on the dock forward. Secure fore and aft and take a bow if you can pull this off without crew.

We always have fenders and dock lines arranged port and starboard when entering a harbor, even with an assigned slip. You never know when you might need to switch sides at the last minute.
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Re: Yet Another Docking thread

How controllable is your boat in reverse? Could enter the marina in reverse and go backwards the whole way?
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Re: Yet Another Docking thread

BA, that was my thought, too - when the wind is at the stern, "just" back in. It would give you the ability to easily slow the boat down if a gust comes up, and you'd have the control when you REALLY need it, at the end and as you dock.
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how big is your boat?
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Re: Yet Another Docking thread

driving in reverse for prolonged times is a bad idea...can go wrong in a number of ways...and most boats arent that good in reverse(most) try it though if you feel like it.

anyways enter slowly and hug your berth, almost touching it...then turn to port with a big oomph of power, go neutral while still turning, then hard over to stbd and gas it in reverse then you should be with your port side to the berth by then...then let the wind push you into it if you have passed it slightly or if done perfectly you should be right at your berth with the bow into it...then simply scooch along it

really hard to explain but I had an exact same berth setup once...it was a side tie that was downwind at berkeley marina in california...but I loved it

when the wind was piping which it usually does...I simply lowered all sails and let the wind push me into my berth...then I would either leave it like that till the wind died and or flipped it in its berth using my berth lines...
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driving in reverse for prolonged times is a bad idea...can go wrong in a number of ways...and most boats arent that good in reverse(most) try it though if you feel like it.
I've been tempted to go a couple of miles in reverse just because once the rudder "bites" my boat steers pretty good! If, I don't go too fast.
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Re: Yet Another Docking thread

I say back in, unless you have a full keel or something else that makes the boat totally unmaneuverable in reverse. The ability to pull straight in without having to stop or turn around prevents the wind (or in my case, currents) from overcoming you. Plus, if you get in trouble and need to stop suddenly, you're gunning the motor in forward, which generally works better for most props.

This video shows my docking in a strong tidal cross-current that's pushing me into my slip. I need to back in because the finger pier is too low to board onto the bow, and too short to reach the cockpit if I pull in forward. If I took the time to stop and reverse the boat, the current would push me into my neighbors' boats sideways:

This next video shows me backing in with the current pushing me out of the slip. It's much easier - like landing a plane into the wind - but still much better to back in the whole way:

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Re: Yet Another Docking thread

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I've been tempted to go a couple of miles in reverse just because once the rudder "bites" my boat steers pretty good! If, I don't go too fast.
good for you! dont be tempted...if for some reason you let go of the wheel most boats snap to one side or the other especially if going fast...

if I can I will always let the wind, or current or whatever help me...

but then again I loved to sail into my slips...starting in dinghies helps
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...then hard over to stbd and gas it in reverse then you should be with your port side to the berth by then...
In my experience with inboards, gassing it hard in reverse will cause prop walk that pushes the stern to port, which is the opposite way that he wants to turn.
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...then let the wind push you into it...
I think he said that he wind is pushing parallel to the fairway, not into the dock.
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