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Thinking about a new project

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This is officially my first post here. Let me introduce myself. I'm current enlisted navy working in the aviation electrical field, ex carpenter, machinist and general tinkerer. I tend to always have a project going on in my life and have just became addicted to sailing in the past 4 months. During my quest for my first sailboat (I learned on a flying scot) I stumbled upon the Northwest 21. This boat is so damn neat. Only 140ish were ever produced and it manages to pack enough sleeping area for 3, an enclosed head and even a small galley area. The boat I'm looking at has been sitting for the past years, but for the price of $900, I'm heavily considering taking it on as a project. I've looked it up and down as well as I can, but I'd really like to know which places to look for any structural issues or rot. I've looked everywhere but the bilge. The gelcoat looks to be in good condition with nothing but alot of moss and dullness. I dont see any cracks anywhere.Also, I havent seen the sails yet, but the owner ensures that theyre in "good" condition...we'll see.

Any advice as to what I should be investigating folks?

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With your level of expertise, normally I'd recommend you have the boat surveyed, but it'd probably cost almost a quarter of the asking price. However, it might be worth it to you to have a professional go through the boat, leaving you with a lot more info about the boat and a project list.

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Re: Thinking about a new project

Not this one, then (asking $3900)

1976 Northwest 21 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Boats of this age, esp neglected/forgotten ones going cheap, will tend to have some water damage from leaks gone unchecked (around the rigging attachment points (chainplates), windows and ports, hatches. Sometimes this moisture gets into the coring of the deck and causes delamination and breakdown of the core material, resulting in 'bouncy' deck panels.

So look for that, look for evidence of plenty of water in bilge, 'high water' marks on bulkeads and berth fronts that are evidence of excess water at some point.

Is the one you're looking at an inboard? at that price the engine is likely to be a question mark too.

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Re: Thinking about a new project

Welcome! Post the pics on Photobucket or another photo site and then insert the IMG links into your posts. The biggest places to look for problems are anywhere there is a hull/deck penetration, whether it's a through-hull or something that goes in from above like a cleat, stanchion, mast step, or chainplate. Chainplates are especially important, because they hold the mast up. I've been on boats where the water traveled down a shroud to the chainplate, then ran down to the bulkhead and rotted the bulkhead. Look for water stains around the chainplates at the bulkhead as a first clue as to whether there's a problem, then poke a bit to make sure the wood under the chainplate is solid. Also look for soft spots on the deck, especially around the chainplates and look for wobbly stanchions (could just be loose screws, but good to check). Another important place to look is in the cabin near the base of the companionway stairs. Many times you'll get leaks through the hatchboards or the sliding companionway cover, and if it doesn't drain away, it can sit and can sometimes cause rotting in the floor (which you'll see as soft spots).

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Oh you guys are awesome. Unfortunately the board wont let me post pictures until I have atleast 10 posts, but lets see if I an atleast post a link to my photobucket so you guys can check this thing out. As far as I can see on the boat, there is almost zero wood used in the structual construction, and I say this from looking at just the cabin area and above. Even the transom is solid fiberglass. Ok turns out I can't post a link...grr
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Other than some sturctural killers, look out for stuff that will suck up your budget: replacing sails, motors, rigging (running and standing), personal gear (pfd, etc), operating expenses (launch fees, mooring, bottom paint...). As you will hear repeatedly, some cheap boats are not cheap. You should be able to paste in the IMG link from photobucket (I think).

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Make 10 quick posts right in this thread, we love pictures!

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Hey folks!

This is officially my first post here. Let me introduce myself. I'm current enlisted navy working in the aviation electrical field, ex carpenter, machinist and general tinkerer.
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With the CV above, let me say that for a $900 boat, you're eminently qualified to do your own survey. Just look for obvious signs of delamination (normally pretty visible) inside and out, start the engine, have a look at the sails. If the boat looks sound, sounds good, the gear mostly works (there probably isn't a lot of it) and the sails are good, what more do you want from $900?

If you use the skills you report above and the boat looks OK, put your money on the table and start boating.


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