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No, not disgruntled Christians. Deists. For the last time, they were DEISTS. Deists. It''s a fact.

Because they were DEISTS, they believed in a personal God and that''s the reason God comes up in some of the founders literature.

But, for the last time, THE MAJORITY OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE NOT CHRISTIAN!

Brenda,

While you''re praying to God to place a force field over our troops in Iraq, why not also pray for Him to do some abracadabra over innocent civilians? After all, none of them signed up to die.
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No, not disgruntled Christians. Deists. For the last time, they were DEISTS. Deists. It''s a fact.

Because they were DEISTS, they believed in a personal God and that''s the reason God comes up in some of the founders literature.

But, for the last time, THE MAJORITY OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE NOT CHRISTIAN!

Brenda,

While you''re praying to God to place a force field over our troops in Iraq, why not also pray for Him to do some abracadabra over innocent civilians? After all, none of them signed up to die.
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Sneuman. Relax. Take a deep breath. As hard as it is to believe it. You do not need to fight this battle.
You see, you have been conned by one of the things on this board that has lured many a reckless fool with more then two IQ points to rub together on a cold evening into research and fair presentation of truth...only to find that there own brains end up leaking form their ears as they attempt to unmderstand how someone can be so astoundingly dense and not have their very own gravitational field. I myself was one such young fool. You can argue vociferously and factually, you can be reasonable and well read and gently educational, lest your correspondent is genuinly that ignorant. And the astounding thing is it does not make the slightest quark of difference.

And I will tell you why.

Brenda is not real.

She does not actually exist!

She is a construct designed to test some abstract theory of human phsycology and is in fact a program written in the wee lonely hours of some MIT student out to prove a point so abstract, so esoteric as to beggar beleife and make one wonder why he couldn''t have just, for the love of small fluffy rodents, found a girlfriend! (or maybe one of the small fluffy rodents...err, never mind).

We do not know if the experiment is ongoing or if some dreadful twist of fate saw the construct that we know as Brenda unleashed onto the sailing board beyond her creator''s control.
It is possible that this phase is indeed still part of the experiment and that every time one of us throws up their hands and cries "Dear Deity of non-specific and possibly entirely fictional and subjective origin, please save me from your most rabbid of followers! Protect me from becoming a pathetic drooling moron as I fail to restrain myself from attemptiong to think along her lines. By all that is holy, subdue your creature!!!!!"....that the sound of gleeful, maniacal cackling can be heard from the MIT dorms.

Or perhaps the envisiaged architect of Brenda was himself consumed by the mindless preaching thing that he invented and is now no more then a greasy puddle on some floor, who was left so vegatative by his prolongued exposure to Brenda that he never even noticed the moment of his own passing. If so, it was a mercy he did not deserve. For now we are left to face her rampant faux-christianity without the chance to really slap him for inventing her.

So there you have it. Your "opponent" is not in fact a woman who frequents a sailing board without ever going sailing and posts inappropriate diatriabes that embarass most reall Christians who encounter them. She is a construct. An unstoppable, resolute, sucking vortex of purest "stupid" and she absolutely will not cease her diatribes and displays of phenomenal ignorance until you are giggling inanely and wearing adult diapers in a place likely to be named "Restful Valley" or similar.

Do not argue with her and she will "reset" to the default position where she only says something stupid from time to time as a lure to the new and unwary, but respond to her and I swear that you will literally feel your intelligence packing its liuttle suitcases, cell by weary cell, and flying off to whatever version of the Bahamas your cortex has to offer.

Do not persist.

You have been warned.

Like buying some sort of boats in the beliefe that they can be "restored", Trying to talk to Brenda is a folly that will lead you to certain ruination and cursing the day you found this site.





Sasha
...Brenda Idiocy Survivor number 4472

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wow! that''s ingenious. thanks for the tipoff.
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Yes, and lab mice are hyperintelligent, pandimensional beings who are conducting experiments on human beings to determine the meaning of life, the universe and everything. You can joke and play all the cynical games you want but there''s no substitute for trusting in God.

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...And then someone says something so dumb as to be impossible not to answer.

Look whatever your own relationship is with god and such. You might like to get a couple of facts straight.

Douglas Adams did not commit suicide. He died of a sudden heart attack at the age of 49 while in the California. It was sudden, undiagnosed, and tragic. Yes there was an autopsie, no there were no drugs or "suspicious circumstances". He left behind an incredibly talented lady who he was still amazed at having married and a seven year old daughter, neither of whome would be well pleased at you accusation that he committed suicide.
I was fortunate to have spoken to the man on several occasions and to have interviewed him a couple of times for a radio program here. I also got to have dinner with him and Terry Pratchet at the same table (along with a few genuine philosophers and people that can come up with worse puns then I can without breaking a sweat).
I am not saying that in order to "show off" or claim to know him better then I did, but suffice to say that I do not think anyone that ever met him could have called him cynical. He was very warm, very comfortable within himself and very gentle and respectful about people (with the exception of Holywood production types. Hearing him and Pratchet compare war stories from various "negotiations" of companies wanting to make films of their books was the only time I have heard him be harsh and cycnical. With damned good reason).
Unlike Pratchett he was alomst the opposite of the writing style that he used in Hitchikers Guide. He was perceptive and deliberate, had very real goals and beliefes that went way beyond his own personal success and his own lifetime (which he saw as being either about 90 or 170 depending on what the Human Genome Project would lead to in his lifetime).
For all that I actually prefer Pratchett''s books (with the exception of "Last Chance To See" by Adams), after meeting him a few times, I actually cared about Douglas Adams on a personal friendly level a good deal more. He just had this warmth, honesty and intelect that made it easy to "look out for him" the way you would for a friend.

So with all due respect, Before you go trying to besmirch his memory, you may wish to be a somewhat better person and get you facts right. You may wish to be a somehwat better Christian and not condemn him for something that he himself would consider a Sin. And while it is unlikely that his daughter (I guess she would be about ten now) is likely to read this board by any stretch of the imagination, what you just said comes across as slimy and hateful when viewed from that perspective.

Sorry for the disjointed post, folks. Not going to try and correct it. It is pre-7am here and I got up to read this thing. Would not have minded an attack of fire and brimstone against me, but this factless nonsense was just too weird and hurtful to leave alone.

Bad Flicker, No biscuit!

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SO WHAT HAS ALL THIS DONE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO BE OVER EDUCATED AND WERE BROUGHT UP IN AN ENVIROMENT WHERE CHRISTIANS MUST HAVE BEEN CRUSHED UNDER THE HEELS OF THIER BOOTS.
WERE YOUR PARENTS NAZI''S AND HAVE ALLOT OF TIME FOR HATE RELATED BASHING OF OTHERS AND WHAT THEY HOLD IN THIER HEART AS AN AMERICAN TRADITION. NONE OF YOU HAVE ANY ROOM TO TALK DOWN TO ME OR ANY OTHER PERSON WHO WALKS THIS PATH WITH ME. DO NOT POST TO THIS THREAD UNLESS YOU HAVE GOOD THINGS TO SAY.
SANTA WAS A SAILOR NOT A SOB WHICH ARE YOU?
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You''re funny. Did you know that?


By the way, Santa Clause, who is based on Saint Nicholas (Who was of the Greek orthadox church and about as far removed as one can get from your brand of faith)and only by the loosest thread had anything to do with christmas before the US advertising indistry got to him was not a sailor. He made a total of two crossings by sea in his life (that we know of) and was so miserable and sick on both occassions that it is said that on the second crossing he prayed for god to intervene and calm the waves. It is for this reason that he is considered a saint to sailors. He himself avoided water travel like the plague.

As for choosing whether to be santa clause or an SOB...well. I currently look more like santa, But of the two, I think I am definately an SOB (You''d have to have met my mother to concur with that, but take my word for it)


Anyway. Thank you for the giggle factor of your post. I always get an extra laugh when someone manages to drag "Nazis" into it, but you went on to mention "american Traditions" and issued a commandment about a bulletin board you do not own.
Its hard to find people that put that much craft into coming across as ridiculous.
As Joss Whedon put it;"My days of not taking you seriously are definately coming to a middle"


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Remember that Hitler was born and raised a Catholic and on more than one occassion said he thought the final solution was "doing God''s work." The rank-and-file Nazis were also Catholic. Also, remember that the Papal states were the first to ghettoize the Jews - long before Hitler. Pope Pius XII almost certainly knew of the plight of Jews throughout German-occupied territory. He did nothing.
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I am happy to report that there has never been a Christian pleasure sailor to harm the Jews in anyway. Many infact were in a group of men that stormed into Nazis death camps and freed the Jews from their imprisonment. One this to rememeber Jesus was a Jew Born and raised in that culture. At this time of year my hope is that the love he has for all men would fill all our hearts and turn us all into brothers.
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