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The truth often is.

Here's a test - quickly pick, at random, 10 pictures of English designed boats.

It's a safe bet that at least 7 of them will be children only a mother could love.

I know there are exceptions but they ARE exceptions. The vast majority of them are just plain butt ugly.
I could of course simply throw ten of William Fife's designs into the mix and sit back with a smug expression on my dial.

That of course would be unfair to Illingworth and Primrose, Holman and Pye, Rob Humphries, the Nicholson Brothers, Maurice Griffiths (one of those pics from Dylan is a Griffiths I think), Robert Clarke and Laurent Giles to name but a few.

To boot, the Brits managed to come up with things like HMS Dreadnought that give a hint as to their abilities.

In the automotive world while it is fair to say that Lucas electronics and the odd oil leak were ahem, features of the post WWII Brit motor any country that can come up with the odd Bentley, Aston Martin or Jaguar cannot be all that bad. (I will of course try and pretend that I havn't noticed Morris Minors, Triumph Heralds, Ford Prefects or Standard 8s)

Oh yes .... and of course we could include the Spitfire and the Mosquito.

So, yes, don't be a meany. Poor wee Brits. Of course we down here can be charitable .... we are flogging 'em at cricket again, alls right with the world.
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Brits invented yachting!

J class boats.. breathtaking..

brits. old money old traditions.

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I wouldn't think of including British cars or airplanes - I drive a Jag XJR. I was referring to small sailboats - the kind most of us have. Personally I wouldn't use Giles to support your argument - his BEST boats might make a "handsome" rating but generally I never thought much of his aesthetics.

For example, post almost ANYTHING built by Westerly.

I should note that the first boat I ever bought was a Brit - a Vivacity 20 bilge keeler.

It was butt ugly. It WAS slow though.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.

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Bristol Channel cutter,

Brits invented yachting!

J class boats.. breathtaking..

brits. old money old traditions.

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Actually the Dutch invented Jachting.

I DID say there were exceptions as well - working craft mainly.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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I do love how they evolved for low to no water under the boat with twin keels and rudder. us yanks do nothing but avoid thin water . Most of the smaller work type boats seem to be very full amidships too, that's is not very eye appealing when not in the water.

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How did the Brits come to rule the waves? By building ugly ships, thus fuelling a desire to capture someone else's. Also a grim determination to finish a job once it's started. I could also point out that the Brits seem to put a premium on character rather than outright beauty.
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Good point - I've read many times that British captains in Napoleonic times loved being assigned to captured French ships because they were so much better than the British ones.

Seems like Beneteau Et. Al. are keeping an ancient tradition alive.

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More confirmation that a good looking British boat is an aberration. How that nation ever came to rule the waves is a mystery to me.
Hmm.. in general, I'd agree but there are exceptions.. FastForward's feelings are a bit hurt at the moment.......

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Who designed "Fast"? I figured it was Holland or someone like that.

And to repeat myself - "There ARE exceptions".

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Who designed "Fast"? I figured it was Holland or someone like that.

And to repeat myself - "There ARE exceptions".
True... Ron Holland (Irish?.. I suppose he might object to being called British...)

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